Sleepy 5 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I like to comment on the part about where she posted about all those articles hating on her during the DWUW era. The whole song DWUW is about haters sayinf whatever they want and she doesn't care, right? So I think her posting all of that just shows that she doesn't care what they say, and it all looks ridiculous. I don't think she's really 'responding' to it, but more like saying 'fuck you.' But that's just my opinion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 I don't like your attitude either. It seems to me that what you're doing is just pointing out (the non-exsistent) flaws in ARTPOP and this era. Like it seems like instead of even looking at all the good things you're just bashing Gaga like she doesn't know what she should be doing with HER OWN career. What if Gaga likes what she did with actually defending her art and herself. The way I have discouraged you have you ever thought that it discourages her when people make threads like this to entirely smash her album. Sure to point out a flaw is okay and discuss it but what you just did was crush the DWUW era. And what if other people like this? Huh? This is just how I feel. There are many things I do like about ARTPOP, but this thread was meant to express how I feel about the overall era. It's negative, but it isn't bashing. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with me just making a thread about how I feel. Why is it so horrendous of me to express my feelings? What have I said to deserve people telling me to leave this fanbase? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 If you dont like it GO HOME YUP EXACTLY (venus is magic...so is g.u.y and aura) Wow that video before tara's dramatic weight loss :emo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 This is just how I feel. There are many things I do like about ARTPOP, but this thread was meant to express how I feel about the overall era. It's negative, but it isn't bashing. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with me just making a thread about how I feel. Why is it so horrendous of me to express my feelings? What have I said to deserve people telling me to leave this fanbase? I don't think you should leave the fanbase. not at all. I just don't agree with a lot of what you said in this thread. This is most probably just at a personal perspective. To me I just don't feel the same way. Like when gaga fights back I think it shows she's not superwoman. It makes it seem like she has feelings too and she doesn't appreciate being smashed. So for me when you go against it it kinda seems like you're saying she's weak for replying and that kinda goes with the Perez type people. I'm sure to a lot of people it makes sense. Gaga being a canvas... Idk what you mean by that. But Gaga isn't any different from BTW era. She replies now but that doesn't mean she isn't as strong and badass. For all we know when she didn't say anything she cried instead. At least now she's letting it out. And that's why it seems to me your trying to control her by telling her what's wrong with what she's doing this era and what she did right last era. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 My only problem with ARTPOP is the singles I cant believe we will never see venus & ARTPOP music video.. and G.U.Y is one of her worst songs why is it a single? because it's an amazing song bye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P 2,336 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Actually many people didn't like her "do it yourself" attitude during Born This Way. Fans were complaining and wanted her to work with professional people for ARTPOP Do you hear that? It's poison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownlessking 158 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I agree, in part. I feel that ARTPOP's direction was very, very messy and it was executed poorly as an era (and I think that Gaga herself would most likely agree). I'm not particularly sure on what you meant in your first paragraph, but I took it to mean Gaga is changing herself based on other people's interpretations of her? I'm unsure if I agree, I feel like she did do that at the start of the era and maybe even when writing the album, but I think now she has found her vision. I didn't particularly like her addressing her critics either, purely for her own sanity. Showing the critics that "LOOK AT ME I DONT CURRR!"" LADY GAGA IS OVER!! BUT NOT REALLY"!!" isn't going to make the press lay off her, it's only going to make them attack her more and I don't think she's prepared to handle that. My personal issue with ARTPOP (as an album as well as an era) is that it's just too messy. The songs are too polarizing, we've get rap, rock, EDM, dance, pop, ballads, happy-ballads, and it just doesn't seem to flow. In Born This Way all of the instruments and backing sounded similar which made it flow very well, whereas listening to ARTPOP reminds me of listening to her Unreleased Collection, they seem very "stuck together". There are some hidden gems in there: Aura, Mary Jane Holland, Venus, ARTPOP (the song), the G.U.Y video, the fibre optic wig, but they're lost amongst a shroud of what the album actually means. The Fame, The Fame Monster and Born This Way all had a very clear theme that shone through not just in her performances but in the songs themselves. Whereas with ARTPOP with had her saying it's about possibilities, supposed to inspire you, "creative rebellion", etc. etc. Maybe she should've name the album "Creative Rebellion" and taken that route from the start, rather than saying it's about ART and POP coming together which, in my opinion, we've had a little amount of evidence for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlop 4,773 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I don't even understand what ARTPOP is about. She says it's basically "anything". Which is cool, but also very vague. Because all her other albums could be considered "ARTPOP". Atleast her other albums had a strong, clear theme. I really think this album is just a collection of works trying to pass as something obscure. BYE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,266 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Interesting but I still don't see how an album's theme can affect you liking the music on the album? She can say whatever she wanna say about her themes, artistry and stuff but as long as she keeps making great music at the end of the day, which she does, it should all be fine imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderblondee 3,695 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Yep, hit the nail on the head. She really changed, and I wish we knew why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelitinmybones 0 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I can see where you're coming from, but I can't say l agree... I don't think ARTPOP is about other people "stamping their own visions" on her, because those outside influences wouldn't exist in the work if Gaga didn't want them there for any reason. She's still in control, but that doesn't mean she can't collaborate with people who could bring something important to the work. As for the second half, the "twitter meltdown" made sense for DWUW, but with the tweets/lm.com comments that followed for some time, it did seem uncharacteristic for her to pay so much attention to the negativity. Of course, everyone feels sensitive at times (plus I'm sure it's much worse with the whole world watching you), and there's nothing wrong with that, so it doesn't bother me too much... The "f*ck the haters" mentality seems more uplifting, sure, but it's also a bit unrealistic to uphold 24/7... Is it really possible for someone to have such thick skin all the time, with no vulnerabilities to judgement or (unfair) criticisms? It just proves that she's like any other human who has her rough patches IMO... and we know now that it was indeed a tough time for her... This exactly. I felt like ARTPOP was all about bringing "togetherness". And I felt like the collabs all fit in nicely. At first when I listened to ARTPOP I wasn't a fan of it to be honest, but it has grown on me a lot to the point I'd say its probably my favourite album. I think seeing performances and music videos certainly helped though, and I think that if there wasn't such a huge gap between Applause, DWUW problems to G.U.Y. it would of grown on me sooner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I agree. It's just a watered down media war and press fest on hating on her because of it and honestly I am not here for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,378 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Yep, hit the nail on the head. She really changed, and I wish we knew why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Pretty sure if you think this is a covered topic and can't contribute intelligently to the conversation then you're then one with out a purpose here. What would it take to simply not open the thread and let people discuss what they feel they'd like to discuss? The same old things said over and over, months after events have taken place, are useless. Wallowing in negativity and repeating topics from months ago isn't intelligent conversation. The 100th thread on "why didn't we get the DWUW video" is ridiculous, not intelligent. This is yet another thread, for the exact same people to whine and complain about the current album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann 354 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 You don't get it at all. I don't like people like you at all. I would love for you to leave the fanbase please. :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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