tokyodisko 0 Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Demi attacked. Spoke for everyone. Betch pls. Uh, she spoke for people who had the same train of thought. If you follow your logic then Gaga speaks for everyone all the damn time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 That's just part of any art. Read below: I don't think it is though. And defining what is art and what isn't ****ing pisses me off so much. That shouldn't be a conversation. Anything that is an expression or represents something is art to me. Whether it's good or not is a totally different matter. Demi basically attacked Gaga's intentions and made her look like some kind of irresponsible person just for expressing herself. It isn't an interpretation, it's more like public slander... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariann 301 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I'll never understand what was so bad about Demi's tweet. She is entitled to her own opinion. Just like everybody else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman 6,170 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Demi is wrong because the artist came out and said she was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMoonShine 0 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Honestly I think it's gotten to the point where you're simplifying my opinion to make it fit your talking points. I did not say art isn't open to interpretation. Actually I said the opposite. But if Demi's getting insulted based on her own interpretation, that's on her and not on Gaga. It is not Gaga's job to anticipate other people's own interpretations of her art. As the artist, she has her own agenda, her own point of view, and her own message. That's on her. Anything else that happens is the consumer's choice. Exactly, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I don't think everyone realizes that art isn't a definite term. I'm wondering why people still think something is "wrong", when it is just someone's opposite opinion. She obviously feels so against this that she doesn't see it as art as much as it is exploitation. How is that wrong of her? Because she didn't get it? She can't decide what is art? I think everyone has that right. Because she targeted Gaga, politely, and said she really thinks it needs to stop? So many people jump on defense for it. I find Millie Brown's work itself disgusting and actually rather in support of eating disorders, but it's "art", so it's whatever. You can say that, but Demi said that Gaga's performance is wrong so it kind of defeats your point, to be honest... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Ezzie 2 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Maybe once people will understand bulimia's point is not on puking, but in feeling you're fatter than you actually are. It's a mental disorder. And puking on stage is not trying to make people be bulimic. What makes people suffer from bulimia is not seeing someone puke, it's the way this business makes us feel only slim people are beautiful. THAT is the point on bulimia. You are absolutely right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 I agree. Why are you surprised though, there always people like them, especially on the internet. Also in my opinion Demi was overeacting. This performance would neve have influence of bulimic persons. Noone would become bulimic from this, it was performance art. SHe could have expressed better her opinion. I do think so too, but I'm sure having such a connection to the issue she was probably rather flustered and upset. I would love to believe that Gaga fans are above being so ignorant to other viewpoints and rude to other human beings, especially with struggles, but that's a far fetched idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMoonShine 0 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Yes, exactly! I completely agree with you and have been saying this as well. You too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 She is not wrong for not liking it. She is wrong for saying that Millie and Gaga are promoting bulimia when they are not. She didn't express her point of view on art, she expressed how ignorant she in terms of eating disorders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 I don't think it is though. And defining what is art and what isn't ****ing pisses me off so much. That shouldn't be a conversation. Anything that is an expression or represents something is art to me. Whether it's good or not is a totally different matter. Demi basically attacked Gaga's intentions and made her look like some kind of irresponsible person just for expressing herself. It isn't an interpretation, it's more like public slander... That's an interesting way to look at it, but art is up to the viewer according to Gaga, at least when it suits her. She is not wrong for not liking it. She is wrong for saying that Millie and Gaga are promoting bulimia when they are not. She didn't express her point of view on art, she expressed how ignorant she in terms of eating disorders. I wouldn't say Demi is ignorant about eating disorders... hahaha You can say that, but Demi said that Gaga's performance is wrong so it kind of defeats your point, to be honest... Not really. I think anyone can label something as wrong or right, art or otherwise. It's just personal opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz 2,579 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Demi is wrong because the artist came out and said she was wrong. When did this happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 That's an interesting way to look at it, but art is up to the viewer according to Gaga, at least when it suits her. I wouldn't say Demi is ignorant about eating disorders... hahaha I don't care what it is according to Gaga because I'm speaking based on my own opinion, what she says isn't gospel to me Yes it is up to the viewer, but it isn't up to the viewer to dictate what an artist should or should not be doing. That's the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 I'll never understand what was so bad about Demi's tweet. She is entitled to her own opinion. Just like everybody else. Ugh, right? It wasn't even all that rude, she just felt very defensive about an issue she is connected to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMoonShine 0 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I don't think everyone realizes that art isn't a definite term. I find Millie Brown's work itself disgusting and actually rather in support of eating disorders, but it's "art", so it's whatever. But it does have a definition, If it didn't the word would be completely meaningless. Art is very loosely defined and so many things can be defined as art but Gaga's performance fits perfectly into the definition of art specifically performance art. To say it isn't art is just annoying because it is art. As for Millie's work I have actually heard of her before and found her mildly interesting, she's not as unusual as she seems in the art world there is lots of weird ass crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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