Versace 7,951 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 UGH I honestly just wanted a new single I don't think we'll get one it seems its ARTRave then the end of ARTPOP and then a 2year break and then another messy era tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,140 Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Well ok maybe I am a little harsh about it but I think their point of view is as I just described, they feel like you are attacking her and them and to be fair to her it can look like that sometimes. I think we all know by now that Gaga talks allot of sh*t, She probably even means it at the time but then she changes her minds or decides something different. She's human so she ain't infallible and I never expected her to be. This is why I ignore the whole rock star thing, I think it's all just part of the show, maybe she means some of it maybe she doesn't, I don't really care. I know that she is genuine where it matters and I know that she is a good person and that is enough for me. Exactly. I'm only a little upset because she's not giving lots of performances this era and when she promised a great show, it was one that I didn't enjoy? I mean you know I'm a fan too and it's been a long time since she gave a great great great Gaga-ish performance. I loved the ARTPOP performance on Jimmy Fallon's show tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMoonShine 0 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Exactly. I'm only a little upset because she's not giving lots of performances this era and when she promised a great show, it was one that I didn't enjoy? I mean you know I'm a fan too and it's been a long time since she gave a great great great Gaga-ish performance. I loved the ARTPOP performance on Jimmy Fallon's show tho. Well who knows what the future will bring? ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The really important piece of the puzzle that people are forgetting is that when she took the stage at the 2009 VMA's, NOBODY was expecting what they got. There were a lot of people who loved her singles from The Fame, but thought her performance was totally weird and creepy (I mean she bled all over herself and then hanged herself onstage). That performance broke the rules... but by doing so, she created a new status quo that every single pop star followed her to. What's considered normal now - the weird outfits, the wigs, the gigantic performances with sets and props and all the theatricality - exists because of Gaga breaking the rules of pop music. What Katy Perry did onstage at the Grammy's this year never would have happened if Gaga didn't move pop culture to the extent that Perry felt comfortable burning herself at the stake onstage. It just wouldn't have happened. That's the difference between the leader and the follower. Lady Gaga broke the rules again tonight. If you didn't like it, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it's hypocritical to say you fell in love with her because she was different, and now you're falling out of love with her because she's different It seems like the truth of the matter is that you like(d) her because the particular performances/songs of hers you discovered back then just happened to be what you like. But she will never do the same thing twice. That's not Lady Gaga. You can't possibly expect her to rest on her laurels. Would you like an artist who did? You deserve a medal for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,140 Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Lady Gaga broke the rules again tonight. If you didn't like it, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it's hypocritical to say you fell in love with her because she was different, and now you're falling out of love with her because she's different It seems like the truth of the matter is that you like(d) her because the particular performances/songs of hers you discovered back then just happened to be what you like. But she will never do the same thing twice. That's not Lady Gaga. You can't possibly expect her to rest on her laurels. Would you like an artist who did? I'm not against new performance ideas and changing and stuff. In fact it'd be boring if she kept doing the same performances. Who knew the Poker Face girl would put facial horns and I would still like it, for example? I'm up for whatever she does but I just don't like whatever she does. I loved her because she was different, yes, but that performance wasn't any "different" because it came from Gaga and under the name of "shock factor." We all know she's crazy on stage. She used fake blood, facial horns and those were crazy things. I like them. I don't expect her to do that again tho. I just didn't feel Gaga's latest performance. And tbh her vocals didn't really help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplay 217 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Hitchcock referencing as in Bad Romance? As in the lead single from The Fame Monster? As in the album she toured with on The Monster Ball? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_1PUJyDa8 Yeah, and that interlude is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If you want her to be Gaga then first you should love every part of her. She can be the Versace model one day and the next day she can be a heavy metal mess. It's ok to have expectations but you have to be realistic. It was a music festival in Austin Texas, not a pop concert in the L.A. beach. She wanted to be part of that crazy atmosphere just like when she was younger. She was always a mess but she changed for the fame. Now that she has a place in the pop scene she can be herself. If you love her for being the person she is, then let her be herself. If you love her for what you want her to be, then you don't love her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The problem is people seem to compare every perform she has ever done to 2009 VMAS. I'm not saying this performance was spectacular or bad, but everything she performs is always compared and if she doesn't live up to that standard they complain. There is nothing wrong with anyone stating their opinions, all of ours are different, I just don't like the people that hate something and go on and on about how they hated it and suck the fun out of it for everyone else. This fanbase does that a lot. Plus, we love to build expectations about things that were never confirmed and when they don't happen the way we expected them to, the meltdowns come. GGD in a nutshell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,130 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Yes, it is wrong to expect more from her than that performance, which was an outstanding effort, whether or not it was up your alley. You didn't expect more; you expected something different. And it's precisely this confusion that's so offensive about some of the criticism now. This was not, in any way, a phoned-in performance. And it was not a meltdown. It was carefully planned, and lovingly and energetically executed. It just wasn't to some peoples' taste -- so, fine, say that, then. But don't confuse your personal disappointment with some kind of inadequacy on her part. :applause: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The "if you're not with us, you're against us" mentality. It's funny how there are so many Gaga fans who pride themselves on thinking outside the box, and then turn out to be just as sheepish as they claim everyone else to be. Goodness gracious. This tea has been steeping for over twelve hours and I'm still worried about burning myself on it. I'm not really shading them or her. When I said this: "that whatever direction she's taking this era is only for this era as she's trying to prove to the masses how much of a creative brave artist she is, which is cool, really, but I don't like it that much." It's because I truly think so. For example, remember all the things she used to say during the Fame era? Where are they now? I feel like she's so shocked at not being on top she is really worried and is over-compensating to the GP instead of just doing what she does best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosalina 612 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Don't see why everyone's so shocked and offended about this: rock stars have been doing stuff like this for years - Ozzy Osbourne bit the head off a bat, Alice Cooper decapitates himself during his concerts, Rammstein do some pretty crazy stuff in their concerts, etc. People seem to forget that Gaga isn't some cookie-cutter clean-cut pop star. There has always been that glam rock, hardcore edge to Gaga, ever since her days with Lady Starlight, she grew up with rock music and she will always be that way. If you're here for cutesy, innocent, basic bubblegum pop, then you know where the door is. Gaga is a rock star in a pop star's body (or the other way round). This is just my opinion, I'm probably totally wrong, but I think the record label has tried to surpress this glam rock/metal image. Gaga has been able to give us a taste of it in BTW, but I think she has wanted to fully explore it for a long time and has never got the chance, and I believe she's getting more and more frustrated to point where she doesn't give a **** anymore. Hence, the whole 'Creative Rebellion' thing. There was so much in last night's show that indicated she's sick of being held back by the industry, the spit roast (being treated like a piece of meat) the whole 'we were forced to perform Applause' thing, the dirt, everything. It's like she's giving the finger to the whole music industry, and it's fabulous. It's interesting, because all my friends who are passionate fans, including myself, despise most modern pop music, and are all into heavy metal bands. We've all felt this rock 'n' roll edge to Gaga since the Fame era, which sets her apart from any other artist out there. I'm just hoping that one day, she'll find the courage to break away from the chains of the music industry, and give us what she's REALLY made of. I hope I'm right about this, it's just a theory, so you can tear me apart as much as you like XD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 But she gave us one of the best performances of her career and many users here will back me up. The Gaga you've described above was very theatrical. This performance was very rock of Gaga. That's how rock stars perform. Ozzy Osbourne bit the head off a bat. I love this new direction. I mean...it was a festival so i don't think anyone was expecting another 2009 vma paparazzi performance. What i'm trying to say is that she met a lot of her fans expectations and for some, she exceeded them. She hasn't done this in a long time and i'm really happy she did something crazy this era. Even in the beginning of the era when she was doing stuff, i thought it was boring. It's like you said above...People that were a fan of her from the beginning liked her bravery and uniqueness from other pop stars and that's exactly why I adored this performance. She's breaking the rules and i love it. She's earned the title Creative Rebellion. tis true she was feeling the SXSW messy festival vibes...only thing im mad about is no applause choreo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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