Bambino 24,266 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 So I was reading posts about the performance here and I noticed something that's really annoying. Whenever someone express a kind of an unpopular opinion about Gaga these days, they get a response like "if you want medicore or pure pop music and #1s, go stan for Katy or Britney." And that's really rude and irrelevant. Some of us liked the performance, some of us didn't, and those who didn't enjoy it don't necessarily need to stan for Katy, for example. Remember most of you didn't became fans during the ARTPOP era, that is, I wonder how many of you will become fans if ARTPOP was her debut album/era and she was preaching with all this art and kindness stuff. It's not wrong to expect more from an artist like Gaga. It's not like she never mixed her artistic visions with commercial but deep pop songs before. For example, VMA's Paparazzi performance. It's still considered her best performance to date by many. What's wrong if she did it again? She'll be giving up on her art? We don't like her being the artist she wanna be? We want her to be a Katy? No. We want her to be Gaga. We all became fans because she was different from other pop stars. Her vocals, her fashion, her music, her character, her bravery and above all that beautiful combination that made her a "one of kind pop performer." I don't know what's going on with her and I'm not really interested in discussing what new direction she might wanna take now but the point is it's not wrong if some of us had big expectations from the performance. Especially that it's coming after a long break and it just seemed promising. I would just hate the idea that some of us just like it because she's giving us too little this era and they feel like they just have to like it, you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernEcstasy 8,998 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 This post is exactly how I feel. I fell in love with Fame Gaga. So completely changing her identity turns her into someone else. It just means adjusting or leaving the fan base. I will be here for the crazy B***h until I die. But I will never like things like last nights swine performance and messy shows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 16,980 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I had big expectations, too. And they were met. I loved the performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 1,031 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 some of us had big expectations from the performance. Especially that it's coming after a long break and it just seemed promising But she gave us one of the best performances of her career and many users here will back me up. The Gaga you've described above was very theatrical. This performance was very rock of Gaga. That's how rock stars perform. Ozzy Osbourne bit the head off a bat. I love this new direction. I mean...it was a festival so i don't think anyone was expecting another 2009 vma paparazzi performance. What i'm trying to say is that she met a lot of her fans expectations and for some, she exceeded them. She hasn't done this in a long time and i'm really happy she did something crazy this era. Even in the beginning of the era when she was doing stuff, i thought it was boring. It's like you said above...People that were a fan of her from the beginning liked her bravery and uniqueness from other pop stars and that's exactly why I adored this performance. She's breaking the rules and i love it. She's earned the title Creative Rebellion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCaligula 0 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Point is...that person on stage at SXSW was nnot the person many many people fell in love with and thats just it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMoonShine 0 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's not wrong to expect more from an artist like Gaga. It's not like she never mixed her artistic visions with commercial but deep pop songs before. For example, It's not expecting more though, it's you wanting her to be what she used to be and complaining when she isn't. It's fine to have that opinion but it's also kind of pointless because Gaga is gonna do as she pleases and she has made that clear. So if you are constantly complaining about how her performances are not pop enough for you I can see why some users might suggest that you go stan for someone who does what you would like Gaga to do. Idk what Gaga will do in the future and I will always have my opinion but it's her life and her career and I respect that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplay 217 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I fell in love with the artsy/hitchcock referencing popstar, not this Marina Abramovic mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 "if you want medicore or pure pop music and #1s, go stan for Katy or Britney." And that's really rude and irrelevant. Indeed. A bit hypocritical too, if not entirely a blatant act of bigotry. Gaga's a pop star who's also exposed to similar criticisms of mediocrity - like every act on Mainstream Top 40 anyway, especially among female artists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Life 118,907 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 No, if I want Pop, I can still stan for Gaga and criticize her when I disagree with any of her acts. And that's because as a fan. I want her to succeed for her own good, not because i criticize her as if it's my job that I get paid for or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Hoegan 1,018 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I don't know what's going on with her and I'm not really interested in discussing what new direction she might wanna take now but the point is it's not wrong if some of us had big expectations from the performance. Especially that it's coming after a long break and it just seemed promising. I would just hate the idea that some of us just like it because she's giving us too little this era and they feel like they just have to like it, you know? I am sure that MANY people here feel the need to like every single one of her efforts because they feel not liking it makes them #fakemonsters and no one wants to be a #fakemonster because #fakemonsters don't appreciate l'artiste and l'arte and that l'artiste can do what she want and being a #fakemonster is not fine and not ok and not cool and shiit... thank gods we have #realmonsters here who can appreciate eve-ry-thing because they are wiser and will defend their goddess no matter what from #fakemonsters #fakemonsters #fakemonsters seriously, f uck you #realmonsters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 So if you are constantly complaining about how her performances are not pop enough for you I can see why some users might suggest that you go stan for someone who does what you would like Gaga to do. I dont think users complained that she isnt pop enough. But I found really hard to see something complete and astonishing about this performance. For the start, especially if she really wants to turn her back to pop music, she should start to sing the ****ing choruses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshLife 16,980 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The really important piece of the puzzle that people are forgetting is that when she took the stage at the 2009 VMA's, NOBODY was expecting what they got. There were a lot of people who loved her singles from The Fame, but thought her performance was totally weird and creepy (I mean she bled all over herself and then hanged herself onstage). That performance broke the rules... but by doing so, she created a new status quo that every single pop star followed her to. What's considered normal now - the weird outfits, the wigs, the gigantic performances with sets and props and all the theatricality - exists because of Gaga breaking the rules of pop music. What Katy Perry did onstage at the Grammy's this year never would have happened if Gaga didn't move pop culture to the extent that Perry felt comfortable burning herself at the stake onstage. It just wouldn't have happened. That's the difference between the leader and the follower. Lady Gaga broke the rules again tonight. If you didn't like it, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it's hypocritical to say you fell in love with her because she was different, and now you're falling out of love with her because she's different It seems like the truth of the matter is that you like(d) her because the particular performances/songs of hers you discovered back then just happened to be what you like. But she will never do the same thing twice. That's not Lady Gaga. You can't possibly expect her to rest on her laurels. Would you like an artist who did? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,266 Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's not expecting more though, it's you wanting her to be what she used to be and complaining when she isn't. It's fine to have that opinion but it's also kind of pointless because Gaga is gonna do as she pleases and she has made that clear. So if you are constantly complaining about how her performances are not pop enough for you I can see why some users might suggest that you go stan for someone who does what you would like Gaga to do. Idk what Gaga will do in the future and I will always have my opinion but it's her life and her career and I respect that. Well excuse me for not liking everything she does under the name of "reinvention." I like that she's constantly changing but sometimes I just don't like some changes. What's wrong with that? I loved how she changed during the BTW era. She was a whole different person than FameGa, for example. But I just didn't enjoy last night's performance because I thought she could've done it better. She already has and I'm sure she can do it again and that doesn't mean she has to re-do past performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo 4,291 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yes, it is wrong to expect more from her than that performance, which was an outstanding effort, whether or not it was up your alley. You didn't expect more; you expected something different. And it's precisely this confusion that's so offensive about some of the criticism now. This was not, in any way, a phoned-in performance. And it was not a meltdown. It was carefully planned, and lovingly and energetically executed. It just wasn't to some peoples' taste -- so, fine, say that, then. But don't confuse your personal disappointment with some kind of inadequacy on her part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Ambition 47,805 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I completely agree. I know we complain a lot but geez people are allowed to not like that performance. Everyones like "you wanted a generic performance??" Her performance could have been good without the puking. People are acting as if we have to love it.. Well sorry if i dont think puking is art. ▌│█║▌║▌║ before I am Canadian, I am Chromatican ║▌║▌║█│▌ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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