Judas Oyster 1,881 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Just watched it. I can't believe what I saw. This video IS made for children. She is really just seeking the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron1012 0 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 i think it's misguided to think that every artist out there is aspiring to be or emulate gaga and gaga's career model. she'll never be gaga because she is katy perry. agree. definitely not the same dna. and even if so, there would still be different aspirations. Katy Perry seems like a silly gal. What may come off as cheap and tacky to you, is a masterpiece to her. You've got to open your mind to different perspectives, especially when it comes to art But op, i get where you're coming from It also she be noted both Gaga and Katy Perry both made statements about their desire for fame/attention concerning their music. It's difficult to say Gaga hasn't sacrificed her artistic integrity without truly knowing her nor her intentions of her work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,881 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Did I really just see a music video about Hot Cheetos and Twinkies... what a sellout. I see what u mean, but be careful. Gaga sold us sandwiches and mayo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHGUY 230 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 I see what u mean, but be careful. Gaga sold us sandwiches and mayo. It was a commentary on how labels are thrown at us in media and we are being suffocated by advertisements of generic products... The fact that she was making a sandwhich in an assembly line manner reinforces this concept how American pop culture has become repetitive and manufactured.... dont even compare that to the same likes as KP's DH video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 9,227 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 While I agree that Gaga has stooped low a few times encourage fans to buy her sales... its nowhere near the level of other artists who go through even cheaper measures for sales (aka Katy Perry who rented a rapper for all her TD singles to be #1) I agree with that. I love judas SO MUCH but I canʹt look like a copycat of JLO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Katy is already the Female MJ, she doesn't need to downgrade to being Gaga But seriously, I don't see what's wrong with doing a fun and carefree video. Not everything has to have some deep and meaningful message that no one understands. Katy is a POP star and she is a damn good one at that. She never claimed to be some highbrow artist that's trying to fuse art and pop with Marina Koons, so why should her work be held to that standard? And lets be real here, 90% of this forum would have called the Dark Horse video tacky and childish regardless of what Katy did. LMFAO I DONT THINK THE REAL FMJ WOULD APPROVE THAT SIS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Angel 0 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Katy is already the Female MJ, she doesn't need to downgrade to being Gaga But seriously, I don't see what's wrong with doing a fun and carefree video. Not everything has to have some deep and meaningful message that no one understands. Katy is a POP star and she is a damn good one at that. She never claimed to be some highbrow artist that's trying to fuse art and pop with Marina Koons, so why should her work be held to that standard? And lets be real here, 90% of this forum would have called the Dark Horse video tacky and childish regardless of what Katy did. I kinda agree. Shes been extremely succesful with this play light and fun strategy. SHes got audience for that. But at the same time shes really never going to be taken seriously artistically with that approach. But does she really care? She just plays it safe, got these number ones and massive sales, she can eventually laugh at those ' real indiel artists' who take it seriously and will not be able to imitate her succes. Public just prefers to keep it simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 24,577 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Remind me why you feel the need to compare them right now? Tacky is Katy's style. Get off her tail + get over it. You guys are behaving like children tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 11,931 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Correct. On top of that her music videos (even TEOG) are always well thought out and have an artistic integrity to them that never errs on tacky or cheap, unlike music videos like Katy Perry's Dark Horse that had no artistic message that quite frankly ruined Ancient Egyptian culture and mythology for me. I see that a couple of people have already disagreed with you here, but I see where you're coming from. The execution was weak, but, as you said, the her integrity and her creative voice were left unscathed. In other words, her mind was in the right place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,881 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It was a commentary on how labels are thrown at us in media and we are being suffocated by advertisements of generic products... The fact that she was making a sandwhich in an assembly line manner reinforces this concept how American pop culture has become repetitive and manufactured.... dont even compare that to the same likes as KP's DH video I was being funny. Besides, you don't know if Katy meant it like that neither, so you can relax :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisdomless1 281 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 THIS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHGUY 230 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Remind me why you feel the need to compare them right now? Tacky is Katy's style. Get off her tail + get over it. You guys are behaving like children tonight. This was a response to previous threads saying KP is replacing Gaga in the industry... and if cheap and tacky is what sells to the GP then there are clearly bigger worries at hand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalLuvah 0 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Just saw KP's Dark Horse music video, and it was so cheap and tacky that it was torture watching it the first time. But what it really got me thinking was that it solidified Gaga's place in the music industry as being in a league of her own. There were threads earlier talking about how KP might replace Gaga and how she is obtaining legendary status... for a second I was afraid it may have been true. But after watching the music video it reminded me that what separate Gaga from not just KP but others like Miley and Rihanna and Britney is that Gaga will never sacrifice her artistic integrity for cheap sales. Even though Alejandro sparked controversy during the peak of Gaga's fame, Gaga released something so controversial because it was a bold statement and it was working towards a cause of bestowing equal rights to all diverse groups/minorities in America. Gaga could have released another Telephone, but instead she released Alejandro that is so rich in its symbolism and imagery and also produced a bold statement that got ppl thinking whether they liked it or not. Even at the height of her career she released BTW which again worked towards a cause of equal rights for not just LGBT community but anyone who felt disenfranchised (yes, I said it) when she could have released something like TF or TFM and remained popular for the GP trying to spark change in society On top of that her music videos (even TEOG) are always well thought out and have an artistic integrity to them that never errs on tacky or cheap, unlike music videos like Katy Perry's Dark Horse that had no artistic message that quite frankly ruined Ancient Egyptian culture and mythology for me. Therefore, I think that Gaga should be proud that she never sold out to the GP just for popularity and sales and instead worked towards something bigger, even if it took a hit in her popularity with the GP. Anyone else agree? Sorry about this wordy post. In case you were wondering: Dark Horse http://www.vevo.com/watch/USUV71400083 Alejandro http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Lady+Gaga+Alejandro&sm=3 It's intentional camp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikou 1,169 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I loved the video and was only really reminded of Gaga during the silver body paint scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 24,577 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 This was a response to previous threads saying KP is replacing Gaga in the industry... and if cheap and tacky is what sells to the GP then there are clearly bigger worries at hand Why do you guys even care, then.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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