Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ya'll have got to stop making these allegations that MTV has it out for Gaga, and also saying MTV was on Team Miley. Lady Gaga's original idea seems incredibly amazing and epic, but it seems like it would probably be seen as slightly disturbing to someone, and perhaps even offensive with the inclusion of blood. Twerking vs Bloodiness and Disturbingness..we all know which one is less offensive, and more appropriate for an awards show. And while they let Gaga go with her original performance in 2009, they may have received some complaints, or someone in the inside just may have deemed it way to shocking, etc. This is incredibly publicized awards show, and it seems Gaga's ideas finally reached it's limits. There's no hate towards Gaga, and no pitting between the two. If they really want to sabotage Gaga they wouldn't have allowed her to perform in the first place, so then she wouldn't be able to generate ANY publicity or real promotion for Applause and ARTPOP. So stop with this stupid and completely unnecessary pitting against musicians and everyone's out to get Gaga. This simply is not true. The only person/entity in the entertainment industry that seems to want it out for Gaga is Perez Hilton, and Gaga already addressed him. While, I hate that MTV didn't allow the performance, I completely understand...it's on the level of performance art, in the intensity of it's shock value.IT reminds me of the crazy performance Leigh Bowery did at Woodstock... However, it must be noted, I doubt this was the performance Gaga said she was training for all along. They probably rejected her idea quite early, most likely within a month or two of receiving it... Gaga would be preparing for any performance for months after she broke her hip. Gaga probably had set pieces designed quite early before even handing in the treatment. I get what you want to say and i kinda agree but why did they turned down her red carpet idea? Multiple Gagas are also disturbing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 that's why she left :cry: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,779 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 It's been four years since that performance, and while critics praised and like I said while they allowed it, we don't know how the people who actually who manage and control decisions like this responded to it, and even if they liked it, they may have simply saw this as too disturbing. It's way more logical/plausible than the fantasy wars fans love to create. What if she got on stage (told them she changed it) and performed it and then MTV tries to stop the performance and Gaga makes them look really bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristessa 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) I'm totally confused by this whole concept, but the red dress - this whole plan sounds like it would've been incredibly interesting to watch, it sucks we never got to see it. Miley seems to be MTV's darling at the moment, so it makes sense that that might have been the reason they made her tone it down (though if I'm being honest, this sounds even riskier than 2009 VMA's, maybe they thought it was a little too much for their stage, even for Gaga?). That's really unfortunate for her, but at the end of the day, I still enjoyed what she did get to do (it's Gaga - she still delivered, period) and I truly hope Gaga gets to show us her full vision from now on and doesn't have to keep dealing with stuff like this. :(I hope Gaga will try this performance in somewhere else. Maybe ArtRave but I don't think so. Mte Edited January 27, 2014 by inhisbelly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron1012 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) I get what you want to say and i kinda agree but why did they turned down her red carpet idea? Multiple Gagas are also disturbing That I really can't see why would be so disturbing. Perhaps they were okay with that part. Perhaps to Gaga having that tidbit would have been more fitting with her original idea, and just decided to cancel it out all together. I mean....she was the one who singlehandedly stripped the Edge of glory concept, because it wasn't exactly how she wanted(You know Joseph Kahn being the controlling...but awesome, director that he si) Edited January 27, 2014 by Cameron1012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Eh, I kind of like the simple Applause performance. I don't think something this over the top would have been the best way to get her back into the public. Even if this was performed, let's be real, Miley still would have owned the night, because it's Miley. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,517 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 ****, I feel so angry right now. That would have been an AMAZING performance. I feel really bad for Gaga and now I understand her attitude these past months. Her fans have been so hard on her... this is a lesson for all of us. Gaga was going to make an epic performance, she's not gone. I just hope she's able to do her thing from now... I really wanna see what she has for us. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANGT 4,995 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ya'll have got to stop making these allegations that MTV has it out for Gaga, and also saying MTV was on Team Miley. Lady Gaga's original idea seems incredibly amazing and epic, but it seems like it would probably be seen as slightly disturbing to someone, and perhaps even offensive with the inclusion of blood. Twerking vs Bloodiness and Disturbingness..we all know which one is less offensive, and more appropriate for an awards show. And while they let Gaga go with her original performance in 2009, they may have received some complaints, or someone in the inside just may have deemed it way to shocking, etc. This is incredibly publicized awards show, and it seems Gaga's ideas finally reached it's limits. There's no hate towards Gaga, and no pitting between the two. If they really want to sabotage Gaga they wouldn't have allowed her to perform in the first place, so then she wouldn't be able to generate ANY publicity or real promotion for Applause and ARTPOP. So stop with this stupid and completely unnecessary pitting against musicians and everyone's out to get Gaga. This simply is not true. The only person/entity in the entertainment industry that seems to want it out for Gaga is Perez Hilton, and Gaga already addressed him. While, I hate that MTV didn't allow the performance, I completely understand...it's on the level of performance art, in the intensity of it's shock value.IT reminds me of the crazy performance Leigh Bowery did at Woodstock... However, it must be noted, I doubt this was the performance Gaga said she was training for all along. They probably rejected her idea quite early, most likely within a month or two of receiving it... Gaga would be preparing for any performance for months after she broke her hip. Gaga probably had set pieces designed quite early before even handing in the treatment. Thanks for this. It really calmed me down. Looking back at the description and reference images it does seem a little like on-stage "Saw" lol. Very gory. I guess I understand. But it just really seems like this is the performance she was talking about in the weeks before the show in interviews. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinAgain 33 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Aww that would have been so cool. Damn MTV... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANGT 4,995 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Eh, I kind of like the simple Applause performance. I don't think something this over the top would have been the best way to get her back into the public. Even if this was performed, let's be real, Miley still would have owned the night, because it's Miley. Girl did you see that bloody ass mirror thing reference image? Seems crazier than a little twerking lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 7,885 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Eh, I kind of like the simple Applause performance. I don't think something this over the top would have been the best way to get her back into the public. Even if this was performed, let's be real, Miley still would have owned the night, because it's Miley. Miley owes all her fame to that one performance. Gaga could have had a defining performance too. Sans the tacky twerk fest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slojo 51 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Who would have been paying for this performance. If it was MTV perhaps they decided it was just too expensive to stage for one artist ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemist 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I don't see anything too gory about this except the torture section which could have easily been tweaked. MTV is so thirsty and lame.. I knew the Applause performance we received was too lackluster for Gaga standards. Excited for what she has in store now that it seems she's regaining her creative control. She's such a brilliant thinker and I think we all tend to forget that sometimes. The tour is going to be insane. I'll never get over this though :cry: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Miley owes all her fame to that one performance. Gaga could have had a defining performance too. Sans the tacky twerk fest. I think Miley's performance was more of a social commentary. Miley does not owe all her fame to just that. Be realistic. She's been a star for years. That was her version of the Paparazzi performance- cemented her in place. I didn't really care for it, but it made history. Gaga's simple performance was nice, I think it was helpful for Applause's longevity. Who would have been paying for this performance. If it was MTV perhaps they decided it was just too expensive to stage for one artist ???? Yeah, this is also very true. They have a budget, time frame, etc. If Gaga really wanted it, she could have offered to pay for quite a lot of it herself.Especially an artist who was fairly gone from the pubic eye and was recovering from hip surgery. It was a big risk for MTV. I hate the title of this thread. Her RIGHT to perform? lol They invited her. It was not her right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemist 0 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Miley hasn't cemented anything.. she'll be forgotten after this album lol. I hope MTV is happy with their decision though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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