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ARTPOP Discussion & Info Database 1-4-2012 thru 7-11-2013


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Runway

i've had my damn iPad ready since christmas (like she said) and there's no sign of that ****ing app nor the album

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aaronyoji

In a sense she's kind of hinted this herself. The ARTPOP app is an actual program that other artist will be able to use says Troy, so they're not just making it for her but for other artist to use. It's an investment really, but I can totally see her continuing to use the APP to upload other songs that she wont use commercially.

well no, im not getting at the thought of her "saving the experimental stuff' exclusively for the app, i detest that idea, and implies they are lesser than her officially released material. what im saying is, she will continue to upload music both commercial and experimental to the app along with videos/photos/mixed media all through her career from this point on, (as well as cd form) as a way of saying that ARTPOP is never finished, because it is her music and it will be referred to as ARTPOP from then on, metaphorically speaking. that's why she said ARTPOP feels like her first real album. 

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HausOfJerry

GUYS, what if the JUNE 29TH is for a single, .. 

but then again there's speculation the album comes out in AUGUST. so 2 months with the lead single?

eh,  :bleh:

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HausOfJerry

AND the time she wrote "6.29.13

was BEFORE the accident & obviously the album got delayed.

so, i'm pretty sure that was the release date of the album before the accident ..  :noparty:  :noparty:  :noparty:

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SchwineLove

she said before that later some of her fans will betray her. well I had seen some indications of that in this fanbase because of the waiting, that some fans would even hate her for not communicating for so long. and now it makes sense that she intended it that way.

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LadyGagaStan93

well no, im not getting at the thought of her "saving the experimental stuff' exclusively for the app, i detest that idea, and implies they are lesser than her officially released material. what im saying is, she will continue to upload music both commercial and experimental to the app along with videos/photos/mixed media all through her career from this point on, (as well as cd form) as a way of saying that ARTPOP is never finished, because it is her music and it will be referred to as ARTPOP from then on, metaphorically speaking. that's why she said ARTPOP feels like her first real album. 

If that's the case I don't think the actual app would be connected to ARTPOP the album as a whole then because commercially that would not work well (using the same name) . Which is why I said that it would be fit for things that she would not use commercially, I didn't mean like as in the experimental side of things. But it would be neat if she did as you said where it was where she put all her other albums (or projects) in the future to be listened to and experienced from the app. We do know that it's coming to all formats though so I wonder how each format will be different in experience.

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aaronyoji

If that's the case I don't think the actual app would be connected to ARTPOP the album as a whole then because commercially that would not work well (using the same name) . Which is why I said that it would be fit for things that she would not use commercially, I didn't mean like as in the experimental side of things. But it would be neat if she did as you said where it was where she put all her other albums (or projects) in the future to be listened to and experienced from the app. We do know that it's coming to all formats though so I wonder how each format will be different in experience.

well what i said was confusing so ill clarify: i don't mean her actually naming her work from then on ARTPOP, but i mean it will be secretly or metaphorically referred to as ARTPOP. ARTPOP is what she'll be making from this point on, but not literally naming more things ARTPOP. 

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LadyGagaStan93

well what i said was confusing so ill clarify: i don't mean her actually naming her work from then on ARTPOP, but i mean it will be secretly or metaphorically referred to as ARTPOP. ARTPOP is what she'll be making from this point on, but not literally naming more things ARTPOP. 

 

Oh okay my bad. I looked up the ARTPOP information she gave us and here's what we're looking at. "'ARTPOP' will be released as an iPad, iPhone, mobile and computer compatible application that is completely interactive with chats, films for every song, extra music, content, Gaga-inspired games, fashion updates, magazines, and more still in the works!"

 

It'd be cool to chat with people while listening to the album for the first time, I think that'd be quite awesome everyone would be experiencing it new and for the first time like one collective journey. Also the games and such would be cool to see and of course same with the extra music. It definitely seems in depth and more like an overall "official" Gaga app rather than just an ARTPOP album app for sure.

 

 

Edit: Also more from the horses mouth.

"Gaga says the beauty of the app approach is that it allows her to add to and embellish ARTPOP far past its initial release date.

"I will also be able to upload new things to the app all the time, the same way I upload to twitter and LM.com." "

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Darkstains

It'd be cool to chat with people while listening to the album for the first time, I think that'd be quite awesome everyone would be experiencing it new and for the first time like one collective journey. Also the games and such would be cool to see and of course same with the extra music. It definitely seems in depth and more like an overall "official" Gaga app rather than just an ARTPOP album app for sure.

 

It would be nice if there is a live chat where we can all see each others reactions while we listen to the lead single for the first time :flutter:

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100percent

It would be nice if there is a live chat where we can all see each others reactions while we listen to the lead single for the first time :flutter:

What is your best skype moment?

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I think the arguments people are having stem from the precarious position that Gaga has set herself in as both a commercial artist and as a symbolic friend/mother to her fans. As a commercial artist, is Gaga morally obligated to connect with her fans? No. Seen as a friend, is Gaga morally obligated to connect with her friends (fans)? Yes. One would be a ****ty friend if one stopped talking to one's friends for months at a time and would be breaking the moral conditions of friendship that have been set up in our society. 

 

Gaga has blended the line between the two positions rather well for a long time, but this current situation really shows how different the two positions are, and how they both demand different sets of expectations.

 

Once and for all, we all simply need to watch the skype interview and the Oprah interview blackout segment to recall that Gaga is clearly not talking to her fans because she wants to reclaim the sense of creativity she had before she became a star, when she was living on her own in NYC. She wants to do this album for herself, not for the fans. So she's pretending that her fans and her stardom don't even exist, so she doesn't have to deal with those expectations. When she was alone in NYC, she didn't have 30 million people to tweet to, so she's not doing that now. 

 

So let's stop debating WHY she's behaving this way. We already know. Case closed.

 

But the argument over what Gaga is or is not morally obligated to do for her fans is still open, depending on which position you think Gaga occupies -- commercial artist or friend. 

 

Personally, I think every artist is required to sacrifice something for their creativity, and I see that she has to sacrifice her friendship with the fans in order to pursue the higher priority of feeding her creativity and flying solo. I think it's a bargain that not only works well for her, but will work well for us in the end, as well, when we receive more interesting work from her. 

 

But in order to make this excruciating wait seem more bearable, I'm going to do my best to only check GGD once a day quickly for news, and if nothing has happened, I'll go on my merry way and pretend just as Gaga is pretending right now -- that she's in the same space she was in before she was ever famous. As if she had never become a star. So for the next couple months, I'm just going to pretend that Gaga isn't a part of my life, and when she comes back, it'll be as if I'm hearing her for the first time. 

:trootea:

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chiuga

this blackout just proves her right again that you can keep the paparazzi off you if you want to

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