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aaronyoji

Lol wut? Telephone is one of her best songs with regards to the general public?

 

There were no flaws in TFM era. There were flaws in the other two. Therefore TFM >>>>>>>>>>>.

nothing about the fame/monster eras were "flawless" as you guys like to perpetuate. neither was born this way! it was flawed, yes, but thats great. the fame and fame monster albums/era where not perfect either. thats okay. 

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Guille

:duck:

 

So all the underground artist that release the most amazing, but commercially uninteresting, music are amateurs? :cryga:

 

Gaga's hits are hits because they're generic and radio-friendly. But that doesn't mean they're genius.

 

Financial success / success with the GP does not equal quality.

 

THE FAME MONSTER = Commercial succes aka radio-friendly + wonderful, masterpiece.

That's what makes it so special, do you get it already or wut :derpga: lol

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Didymus

THE FAME MONSTER = Commercial succes aka radio-friendly + wonderful, masterpiece.

That's what makes it so special, do you get it already or wut :derpga: lol

 

What annoys me on this forum is that people never read the posts others quote.

 

That is not what I was talking about :rip:

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Saint Laurent

:duck:

 

So all the underground artist that release the most amazing, but commercially uninteresting, music are amateurs? :cryga:

 

Gaga's hits are hits because they're generic and radio-friendly. But that doesn't mean they're genius.

 

Financial success / success with the GP does not equal quality.

If something sells 12 million copies, it's completely genius. 

 

If they weren't amateurs and if their music was up to standard then they would have made it already. 

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Guille

What annoys me on this forum is that people never read the posts others quote.

 

That is not what I was talking about :rip:

 

So what!? :lmao: It just came to my mind so I made sure you had it into account :smh:

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aaronyoji

:duck:

 

So all the underground artist that release the most amazing, but commercially uninteresting, music are amateurs? :cryga:

 

Gaga's hits are hits because they're generic and radio-friendly. But that doesn't mean they're genius.

 

Financial success / success with the GP does not equal quality.

i agree with where you stand, but i always disagree about how you feel the need to  make deprecating remarks at gaga's expense just to defend the artistic side of things. yes, her music was very base and a bit generic in the beginning, but she's evolved highly and in monumental rates. our arguments and opinions of her must evolve with her. 

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Didymus

If something sells 12 million copies, it's completely genius. 

 

If they weren't amateurs and if their music was up to standard then they would have made it already. 

 

That is the most ridiculous statement about music I have ever heard.

 

Are you like serious or are you just trolling me? :rip:

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Saint Laurent

nothing about the fame/monster eras were "flawless" as you guys like to perpetuate. neither was born this way! it was flawed, yes, but thats great. the fame and fame monster albums/era where not perfect either. thats okay. 

That's the thing tho. TFM era was not flawed, it was perfect.

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bananahammock

BORN THIS WAY BALL > Monster Ball tho

 

oh yeah i agree, i LOVED the born this way ball but the monster ball fit in so well with the greatness of the TFM era whereas the BTW era was more hit and miss altogether

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Saint Laurent

That is the most ridiculous statement about music I have ever heard.

 

Are you like serious or are you just trolling me? :rip:

What's ridiculous about it.

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Didymus

i agree with where you stand, but i always disagree about how you feel the need to  make deprecating remarks at gaga's expense just to defend the artistic side of things. yes, her music was very base and a bit generic in the beginning, but she's evolved highly and in monumental rates. our arguments and opinions of her must evolve with her. 

 

She has evolved, but her songs still aren't groundbreaking songs. I'm comparing her to the legends that inspire her: Springsteen, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, Megadeth,... She's not making thóse songs.

 

It's not deprecating, it's just honest. Why would you try to compare Gaga with Pink Floyd and make Gaga look good :rip:

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Guille

oh yeah i agree, i LOVED the born this way ball but the monster ball fit in so well with the greatness of the TFM era whereas the BTW era was more hit and miss altogether

I agree that The Monster Ball suits perfectly and It's the perfect extension of the album, but The Born This Way Ball as a show slays every single tour on Earth :legend:

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aaronyoji

That's the thing tho. TFM era was not flawed, it was perfect.

maybe to some of you, but if TFM era was received the way the btw era was, no one would be up its ass, regardless of whether the music was still up to par. 

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Guille

She has evolved, but her songs still aren't groundbreaking songs. I'm comparing her to the legends that inspire her: Springsteen, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, Megadeth,... She's not making thóse songs.

 

It's not deprecating, it's just honest. Why would you try to compare Gaga with Pink Floyd and make Gaga look good :rip:

 

Who is Pink Floyd tho? :lmao:

Honestly, do you really think they're good or it's just the publicity and promotion they carry on their back what makes you think they're a legend?

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