VforVendetta 2,024 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 sorryn i wanted to quote but iii pres reporttt You better run b---h! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 If you stan for Venusus then its ok. venus is the gem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugh121 50 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 DWUW was so close to the top ten and they didn't release the video oh interscope but we are supposed to say they know what they are doing right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 It's so bad that people are turning to alcohol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I am telling yall, the song is done unless something MAJOR happens. It will have to be more than the video now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 It hurts seeing DWUW at #18 Let's hope it recovers tomorrow. It has a lot to recover from though It's so annoying how Roar has 2 commercials right now.Since all old songs recover now like Roar, WMU, Applause etc we should be focusing on being happy that ApplauGod is reclimbing rather than DWUW. Lets accept that December isn't focusing on new songs. From the new year we will start worrying about DWUW. For now its doing more than fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 What pisses me off the most is how it could have gotten MASSIVE Christmas sales when it was like #13 or #12. Now it's probably gonna sell something like 180,000 :awkney: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,632 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I am a fan and a long time lurker, first time poster, also connected to the industry. Anyway, I thought I would address some of your meltdowns above and set some things relatively straight. I am not here to bash, just to give some info and also put perspective on things. The reason according to my sources why the video is on hold is because, indeed, Terry and Gaga went all out. It's quite, er, suggestive. The problem is that, you may have not paid attention, but there has been a major R.Kelly backlash in the recent couple of weeks. The mainstream has caught on, even though it's Christmas time, and the whole industry, although most people already knew of his reputation, the Village Voice expose with the court documents posted did a lot of damage. Now, you could say that it doesn't matter, and to R.Kelly it may not. His fanbase will still support him, most likely. But for Gaga, who has been re-building her image, to go from Venus to making out with a publicly known pedophile and abuser, is a huge risk. Interscope does not feel it is a good one this time around. Shock value is good, when it's harmless, in their opinion. Also it's Christmas-time, and the timing of a pretty sleazy video being released just as children are getting their gifts from under the tree....eh.... not ideal. There would be hell to pay from the media who would eat this up - Gaga getting it on with R.Kelly on screen - and all the articles would link back to his online mess. The video is being re-worked. I don't think it will be scrapped, though. The Christina event added to the possibility of her being in the new version but it's not confirmed, as far as I know. Now, as much as Gaga is a powerhouse of ideas, she ALWAYS had brilliant collaborators who helped her filter those ideas. The reason why The Fame and TFM did so well is because there was a cohesiveness to that work, both musically and visually. She deferred to her Haus, management and although still ultra active in the creation of the presentations, she had a TEAM. Now, the team is no longer there. Vince is a great guy, but he was always a yes man to her, not a real partner. It was Troy who guided her in the recent years. The industry was buzzing after their breakup. For Troy to give up his cash cow was unthinkable. Don't make the mistake of thinking that Gaga could just break that contract herself. She does not have THAT much power yet. Interscope owns her hand and foot, it's a 360 deal. For them it was an Event Horizon, not in a good way. So for Troy to depart, and before the cycle started, meant that Gaga was truly acting out and taking the reigns and was impossible to handle. I am not saying it's always a bad thing to walk your own line, but on that level it's very hard to keep an even head. I think this album and the whole era show a lack of cohesiveness. Even BTW, with its flaws, still had an element of 'that something'. People loved or hated it and still do. Some in the fan base are now waxing nostalgic about it. Most people in the GP just don't really...care. Anyway, here's to hoping things will turn around and Gaga acquires a brilliant collaborator/partner/strategist in no time. Thank you for sharing this and clearing things up. I think the Troy departure was a big blow and now I'm curious of the previous departures from the Haus. Do you know if Troy has a replacement yet? Do your own research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory 2,247 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Since all old songs recover now like Roar, WMU, Applause etc we should be focusing on being happy that ApplauGod is reclimbing rather than DWUW. Lets accept that December isn't focusing on new songs. From the new year we will start worrying about DWUW. For now its doing more than fine That's true! But at the same time it gives MTN memories... :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 It's ok guys. Klou' friend said singles 3,4, and 5 would do well And don't you dare doubt her after she predicted DWUW's underperformance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 What pisses me off the most is how it could have gotten MASSIVE Christmas sales when it was like #13 or #12. Now it's probably gonna sell something like 180,000 I'd be satisfied with anything over 150K It's ok guys. Klou' friend said singles 3,4, and 5 would do well And don't you dare doubt her after she predicted DWUW's underperformance. I was hoping she'd be wrong for once :giveup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I'd be satisfied with anything over 150K inb4 50 k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Jhonny on ggd: KISS took it off PR. So the updates won't be bipolar. They will be negative lol. I think this is it for Gaga's maimstream success. I broke down in atrl and cried a little. I am handling it better now. The Lord Is testing me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Jhonny on ggd: KISS took it off PR. So the updates won't be bipolar. They will be negative lol. I think this is it for Gaga's maimstream success. I broke down in atrl and cried a little. I am handling it better now. mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 why isn't the beats commercial airing on TV in the US (i think it's not airing am i wrong?)? it's been a miracle for other countries... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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