US Charts Discussion

[Mariano 958]

If this is true we may have serious trouble and maybe not. Other acts had bigger advantages from youtube views so maybe this works in our favor for now... Noone can really know.

less streaming will never work in our favor

Gaga's peak on mediabase 120M AI

Even Avicii have bigger radio support now  

 

[Blues 0]

Comment from youtube (DWUW audio):

 

What is this mess ? Is It true

Yes Billboard changed the formula to make streaming count less 2 weeks ago, it was posted in the article after Wrecking Ball went back to #1. 

 

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TOP 20

1. EMINEM - The Monster f/Rihanna: 183.004 (+ 0.747)

2. IMAGINE DRAGONS - Demons: 165.039 (+ 0.108) â–²

3. AVICII - Wake Me Up: 162.819 (- 2.329) â–¼

4. ONEREPUBLIC - Counting Stars: 158.681 (+ 2.406)

5. LORDE - Royals: 148.004 (- 2.007)

6. DRAKE - Hold On, We're Going Home: 130.995 (- 2.507)

7. PITBULL - Timber f/Ke$ha: 106.921 (+ 2.934) â–²

8. MILEY CYRUS - Wrecking Ball: 103.781 (- 2.205) â–¼

9. PASSENGER - Let Her Go: 82.649 (+ 1.248) â–²

10. ZEDD - Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 81.362 (+ 0.577) â–²

11. KATY PERRY - Roar: 80.246 (- 1.097)

12. KATY PERRY - Unconditionally: 80.184 (- 1.279) â–¼

13. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - White Walls f/ScHoolboy Q: 73.275 (+ 0.191)

14. LADY GAGA - Applause: 70.183 (- 1.658)

15. LADY GAGA - Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 67.895 (+ 1.357) â–²

16. NEIGHBOURHOOD - Sweater Weather: 67.764 (+ 0.649) â–¼

17. JAY Z - Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 63.808 (- 1.223)

18. ELI YOUNG BAND - Drunk Last Night: 62.587 (+ 0.607) â–²

19. PARMALEE - Carolina: 62.216 (- 0.484) â–¼

20. CHRIS BROWN - Love More f/Nicki Minaj: 60.218 (- 0.217)

 

OUTRAS

ELLIE GOULDING - Burn: 59.155 (+ 2.418)

FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Stay: 58.634 (+ 0.337)

THE BAND PERRY - Don't Let Me Be Lonely: 53.979 (+ 0.512)

ONE DIRECTION - Story Of My Life: 48.754 (+ 2.106)

A GREAT BIG WORLD - Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 48.637 (+ 1.794)

LORDE - Team: 47.082 (+ 2.743)

BASTILLE - Pompeii: 44.795 (+ 1.183)

CASSADEE POPE - Wasting All These Tears: 44.615 (+ 0.473)

LUKE BRYAN - Drink A Beer: 43.423 (+ 0.679)

MARIAH CAREY - All I Want For Christmas Is...: 41.965 (+ 0.701)

BRENDA LEE - Rockin' Around The Christmas..: 37.920 (+ 0.211)

BOBBY HELMS - Jingle Bell Rock: 37.347 (+ 0.573)

BURL IVES - Have A Holly Jolly Christmas: 36.671 (+ 0.107)

NAT KING COLE - The Christmas Song: 36.282 (+ 0.406)

JASON ALDEAN - When She Says Baby: 34.711 (+ 1.217)

LADY ANTEBELLUM - Compass: 33.719 (+ 0.662)

BRITNEY SPEARS - Perfume: 19.711 (+ 0.073)

KATY PERRY - Dark Horse: 19.002 (+ 2.303)

KELLY CLARKSON - Underneath The Tree: 16.399 (+ 0.138)

CALVIN HARRIS - Thinking About You: 16.045 (+ 0.055)

DEMI LOVATO - Neon Lights: 9.321 (+ 0.329)

BEYONCE - Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 4.300 (+ 1.586)

MILEY CYRUS - Adore You: 1.917

[Fizzy 2,217]

Yes Billboard changed the formula to make streaming count less 2 weeks ago, it was posted in the article after Wrecking Ball went back to #1. 

 

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TOP 20

1. EMINEM - The Monster f/Rihanna: 183.004 (+ 0.747)

2. IMAGINE DRAGONS - Demons: 165.039 (+ 0.108) â–²

3. AVICII - Wake Me Up: 162.819 (- 2.329) â–¼

4. ONEREPUBLIC - Counting Stars: 158.681 (+ 2.406)

5. LORDE - Royals: 148.004 (- 2.007)

6. DRAKE - Hold On, We're Going Home: 130.995 (- 2.507)

7. PITBULL - Timber f/Ke$ha: 106.921 (+ 2.934) â–²

8. MILEY CYRUS - Wrecking Ball: 103.781 (- 2.205) â–¼

9. PASSENGER - Let Her Go: 82.649 (+ 1.248) â–²

10. ZEDD - Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 81.362 (+ 0.577) â–²

11. KATY PERRY - Roar: 80.246 (- 1.097)

12. KATY PERRY - Unconditionally: 80.184 (- 1.279) â–¼

13. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - White Walls f/ScHoolboy Q: 73.275 (+ 0.191)14. LADY GAGA - Applause: 70.183 (- 1.658)

15. LADY GAGA - Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 67.895 (+ 1.357) â–²

16. NEIGHBOURHOOD - Sweater Weather: 67.764 (+ 0.649) â–¼

17. JAY Z - Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 63.808 (- 1.223)

18. ELI YOUNG BAND - Drunk Last Night: 62.587 (+ 0.607) â–²

19. PARMALEE - Carolina: 62.216 (- 0.484) â–¼

20. CHRIS BROWN - Love More f/Nicki Minaj: 60.218 (- 0.217)

 

OUTRAS

ELLIE GOULDING - Burn: 59.155 (+ 2.418)

FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Stay: 58.634 (+ 0.337)

THE BAND PERRY - Don't Let Me Be Lonely: 53.979 (+ 0.512)

ONE DIRECTION - Story Of My Life: 48.754 (+ 2.106)

A GREAT BIG WORLD - Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 48.637 (+ 1.794)

LORDE - Team: 47.082 (+ 2.743)

BASTILLE - Pompeii: 44.795 (+ 1.183)

CASSADEE POPE - Wasting All These Tears: 44.615 (+ 0.473)

LUKE BRYAN - Drink A Beer: 43.423 (+ 0.679)

MARIAH CAREY - All I Want For Christmas Is...: 41.965 (+ 0.701)

BRENDA LEE - Rockin' Around The Christmas..: 37.920 (+ 0.211)

BOBBY HELMS - Jingle Bell Rock: 37.347 (+ 0.573)

BURL IVES - Have A Holly Jolly Christmas: 36.671 (+ 0.107)

NAT KING COLE - The Christmas Song: 36.282 (+ 0.406)

JASON ALDEAN - When She Says Baby: 34.711 (+ 1.217)

LADY ANTEBELLUM - Compass: 33.719 (+ 0.662)

BRITNEY SPEARS - Perfume: 19.711 (+ 0.073)

KATY PERRY - Dark Horse: 19.002 (+ 2.303)

KELLY CLARKSON - Underneath The Tree: 16.399 (+ 0.138)

CALVIN HARRIS - Thinking About You: 16.045 (+ 0.055)

DEMI LOVATO - Neon Lights: 9.321 (+ 0.329)

BEYONCE - Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 4.300 (+ 1.586)

MILEY CYRUS - Adore You: 1.917

Yay for DWUW. AND **** BILLBOARD! :(

[Mariano 958]

BB is such a mess .. When are they going to fix the formula and make radio count less ?

[Kermit the frog 1,921]

Radio should definitely count less, it's basically as a few ppl decide which songs go #1

[PatrickMonster 6,758]

Roar passed Uncle on radio AI 

[Mills 446]

Won't make much of an impact? No. The Billboard rule change has pointed that it only slightly changed the HOT 100 system to balance sales, radio airplay, and streaming. But it doesn't mean that streaming has been completely left out in factoring which song is topping the chart or not. This isn't the first time it has introduced a "change" to its system. They've been adjusting it in recent years, and this is the very loophole which critics are using against Billboard itself.  

[VforVendetta 2,024]

less streaming will never work in our favor

Gaga's peak on mediabase 120M AI

Even Avicii have bigger radio support now

Yes but in streaming there also much bigger artists now like Miley(for now) or Rihanna that will be have a bigger problem. I still support streaming to have a bigger effect in the charts than airplay so I agree with you...

[MonsterMum 2,532]

  ARTPOP is not selling good and It's not only because of Gaga and her Image, If people really liked the music they would've bought it ..

 

To throw in a quote: "people hear what they see". 

It's not just the music, hell they don't even give the music a change before all...

[Pure Adrenaline 1,518]

if this is true that BB changed their rule just week earlier before the release of Gaga's new video ..... I guess she shouldn't want on mocking them yearlier this year

[Mariano 958]

Yes but in streaming there also much bigger artists now like Miley(for now) or Rihanna that will be have a bigger problem. I still support streaming to have a bigger effect in the charts than airplay so I agree with you...

to think that You and I sold 2.2M with 50M AI only shows Gaga's digital power .. (or at least the digital power she used to have.. )

To throw in a quote: "people hear what they see". 

It's not just the music, hell they don't even give the music a change before all...

Yes, you are right..  but still ..

[VforVendetta 2,024]

Yes Billboard changed the formula to make streaming count less 2 weeks ago, it was posted in the article after Wrecking Ball went back to #1.

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TOP 20

1. EMINEM - The Monster f/Rihanna: 183.004 (+ 0.747)

2. IMAGINE DRAGONS - Demons: 165.039 (+ 0.108) â–²

3. AVICII - Wake Me Up: 162.819 (- 2.329) â–¼

4. ONEREPUBLIC - Counting Stars: 158.681 (+ 2.406)

5. LORDE - Royals: 148.004 (- 2.007)

6. DRAKE - Hold On, We're Going Home: 130.995 (- 2.507)

7. PITBULL - Timber f/Ke$ha: 106.921 (+ 2.934) â–²

8. MILEY CYRUS - Wrecking Ball: 103.781 (- 2.205) â–¼

9. PASSENGER - Let Her Go: 82.649 (+ 1.248) â–²

10. ZEDD - Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 81.362 (+ 0.577) â–²

11. KATY PERRY - Roar: 80.246 (- 1.097)

12. KATY PERRY - Unconditionally: 80.184 (- 1.279) â–¼

13. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - White Walls f/ScHoolboy Q: 73.275 (+ 0.191)

14. LADY GAGA - Applause: 70.183 (- 1.658)

15. LADY GAGA - Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 67.895 (+ 1.357) â–²

16. NEIGHBOURHOOD - Sweater Weather: 67.764 (+ 0.649) â–¼

17. JAY Z - Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 63.808 (- 1.223)

18. ELI YOUNG BAND - Drunk Last Night: 62.587 (+ 0.607) â–²

19. PARMALEE - Carolina: 62.216 (- 0.484) â–¼

20. CHRIS BROWN - Love More f/Nicki Minaj: 60.218 (- 0.217)

OUTRAS

ELLIE GOULDING - Burn: 59.155 (+ 2.418)

FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Stay: 58.634 (+ 0.337)

THE BAND PERRY - Don't Let Me Be Lonely: 53.979 (+ 0.512)

ONE DIRECTION - Story Of My Life: 48.754 (+ 2.106)

A GREAT BIG WORLD - Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 48.637 (+ 1.794)

LORDE - Team: 47.082 (+ 2.743)

BASTILLE - Pompeii: 44.795 (+ 1.183)

CASSADEE POPE - Wasting All These Tears: 44.615 (+ 0.473)

LUKE BRYAN - Drink A Beer: 43.423 (+ 0.679)

MARIAH CAREY - All I Want For Christmas Is...: 41.965 (+ 0.701)

BRENDA LEE - Rockin' Around The Christmas..: 37.920 (+ 0.211)

BOBBY HELMS - Jingle Bell Rock: 37.347 (+ 0.573)

BURL IVES - Have A Holly Jolly Christmas: 36.671 (+ 0.107)

NAT KING COLE - The Christmas Song: 36.282 (+ 0.406)

JASON ALDEAN - When She Says Baby: 34.711 (+ 1.217)

LADY ANTEBELLUM - Compass: 33.719 (+ 0.662)

BRITNEY SPEARS - Perfume: 19.711 (+ 0.073)

KATY PERRY - Dark Horse: 19.002 (+ 2.303)

KELLY CLARKSON - Underneath The Tree: 16.399 (+ 0.138)

CALVIN HARRIS - Thinking About You: 16.045 (+ 0.055)

DEMI LOVATO - Neon Lights: 9.321 (+ 0.329)

BEYONCE - Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 4.300 (+ 1.586)

MILEY CYRUS - Adore You: 1.917

How did Dope enter the HOT 100 top 10 though? (Or this happened before?)

[Mariano 958]

if this is true that BB changed their rule just week earlier before the release of Gaga's new video ..... I guess she shouldn't want on mocking them yearlier this year

No they changed it right when Wrecking Ball topped the chart for a 3rd nonconsecutive week after the Chat Roulette video ...

I don't get the point tho .. The video have 80M Views, It's clearly popular and of course it's not only because of the song, but The video Itself make the song the most popular in that particular week, so I can't see anything wrong with that :(  But If Radio plays some generic **** like The Monster and Roar, It's ok to top the chart ? Mkey ..

[Bitter 3,640]

yay for the update, 70M before the video drops it's great 

 

Don't forget guys to request the song 

[StarryNight 10,106]

Love your positivity

 

But if all this doesn't help then I will probably start melting down just like everyone else here