lordgagx 5,466 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence 237 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I don't get what the point of this thread is, other than to point out all of the negative things that we already know I do agree that it's stupid to blame the music a lot of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmar 22,208 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'm glad Venus was scrapped as a single, and Yoü and I is rock and not country, but other than that I agree. 俺の勝利は揺るぎない Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zexion_armando 241 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The d--gs have always been a major detractor in nearly every era, its not exclusive to BtW. Judas however can be blamed for everything lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen 30,431 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 omg who cares Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer 10,973 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 You forgot, the name ARTPOP itself which put the entire media machine's panties in a bunch for six months 💚💛💕❣⭕💢💢 | ⓜⓔⓡⓡⓨ ©ⓗⓡⓘⓢⓣⓜⓐⓢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga is Life 101 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It's amazing how much of an impact it's had. There's got to be more to it than just messy management imo. At least the music is still epic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I don't get what the point of this thread is, other than to point out all of the negative things that we already know I do agree that it's stupid to blame the music a lot of the timeI posted the OP before I could finish it by mistake, sorry. I'm glad Venus was scrapped as a single, and Yoü and I is rock and not country, but other than that I agree.It has major country influences and this is why it did so well in the US while it completely flopped WW. As for Venus, the song had a complete promotional campaign, the era wouldn't have been an unplanned mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigInsideAHuman 1 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The difference between TF/TFM and BTW/AP TF/TFM took musical and visual risks but was on point with promotion BTW/ARTPOP took strategy/promotional risks, while Gaga continues to imitate the heights of TFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivington St 510 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It really bother me all this problems and situations that both eras had to pass through, because Gaga is a talented person and her music is truly amazing, but everything becomes a waste because of how her team managed all this situations. Look at Katy Perry's team, they are really good at their job. Can you imagine Gaga having Katy Perry's team (I mean in terms of marketing, strategy, etc)? Everything would be very different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 omg who caresYou should. Its important to learn from our mistakes. Also people were blaiming the music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarfall 3,723 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The d--gs have always been a major detractor in nearly every era, its not exclusive to BtW. Judas however can be blamed for everything lol. It made it into the top 10 I dont understand why everyone hates it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Hindsite. ???? It's easy to say shoulda, coulda , woulda.... and then look back... What is the exact perfectly bestestest correct thing that Gaga should do now????? She has tour dates booked, sold out shows ... appearances on major T.V. shows, radio programs.. her own perfume... most watched You Tube videos.... Mega bank account, the bestestest apartment in Manhattan...fans scream for her attention.... Movie and T.V. star actor boyfriend.... Loving family..... ect ect ect........................................... Most of us only dream of reaching these pinnacles ... 8-) like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Preach it!! I love both albums (ARTPOP still is my fave) 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet 372 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Lack of coherence is the biggest problem for both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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