Cersei 56 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I honestly feel bad but I really agree, you need critics gags.. you can't shut the world out. Popular Youtuber Shane Dawson, in one of his podcasts made this comment about gaga, and I honestly agree with it. "At first it was weird visuals, with catchy pop tunes, and it worked. Now it's just weird visuals and weird pop music, and i'm a little confused. That Venus song, I mean she was going to make that her second single? What was she thinking, it's not experimental it's just deliberately odd and unrelateable and uninteresting. I had a conversation with one of her old members of the Haus Of Gaga, and she said when Lady Gaga first came out, people were REALLY helping her write the music, she had songwriters and everything but she always made sure her stamp was on there somewhere. Now it's different, she's got rid of all the writers and all the helpers and she's pretty much saying **** all of you, I can do this all by myself. Now the problem with that is, just like when Kelly Clarkson did the same thing, after one really successful album you forget that people can actually help you. I think Lady Gaga's in that phase where I can do everything, and I did everything on Venus... and truly all of us are thinking, yeah I can tell.. Four Choruses and all of them are messy and awfully produced. All Gaga needs is to keep the art, and keep her visuals... but let other people in, and try not to be a one person show, because I feel she's under the impression that having help is a bad thing." Sorry if this was a fair read, but honestly I've never heard or seen anything which I agree with more. Gaga having co-artists and producers is not a bad thing! Getting inspiration from producers etc, is not a bad thing! There is nothing wrong with radio friendly, you've done it before, had artistic visuals and themes but with songs people could relate to! This is what happens when you shut people out, you forget how to relate to others! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHybrid 0 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I think Perez and Troy are in a secret relationship and stole the video and are watching it and laughing at everyone. It makes me cry thinking about them enjoying it even when they're so mean and terrible. Discuss. And they've secretly shared it with John Mayer, whom shared it with Katy Perry who is cyber-bullying Gagz and R.Kelly and Xtina too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 "it's not experimental it's just deliberately odd and unrelateable and uninteresting" :roll: That is so not true and even if it is for that person, it's only an opinion ffs. As for "she's under the impression that having help is a bad thing"; she's collaborating with artists she wants to collaborate with, so I think she does know who she needs (and wants) to learn from. She probably never had as many interesting collaborations as this time, so your point is ridiculous, irrelevant and based on nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsolti 2,688 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 who the **** cares about venus' lyrics when it's catchy as **** Please correct me if I make any grammar mistakes, I want to master English as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert 108 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I hate it when people say Gaga should make "radio-friendly" songs. Let her do her own ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Defecit of 25 mil? I stopped reading there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometoogg 0 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Popular Youtuber Shane Dawson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haldy 1,286 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I agree with criticism, but there is also just bashing and a lot of that has been happening. Critical reviews of her music is all well and good, but criticism of her as an artist or a person is wrong. As are the lies like that 25 million deficit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helix 1,487 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 That picture is filled with more bull**** than Perez' twitter Anyway, there's a difference between the constructive criticism she needs and the mindless spewed s--t that she seems to get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 15,368 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 There was this article where Simon Cowell said that the world's had enough of Lady Gaga. He dared to say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Stopped reading when I saw the 25 million dollar debt mentioned and the irrelevant Shane Dawson.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHybrid 0 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Well, I agree in some parts buttt dat 25 mil thing is fake, so i stahped right derrrr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cersei 56 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 That picture is filled with more bull**** than Perez' twitter is it really though? Or are you too afraid to agree with criticism.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil 2,133 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 stopped reading after the deficit of 25 millions but you are right she needs critics but there are two types of critics: the ignorant ones who say she not talented etc and the constructive ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helix 1,487 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 is it really though? Or are you too afraid to agree with criticism.. That's not even really "criticism". What I read in that isn't very helpful in my opinion. It's just saying how it's "not radio-friendly" or "sounds like other music" Constructive criticism would be saying that stuff, then adding on how it can be fixed/ made better. She needs critics, we all do. Not that kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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