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Gaga's egocentrism is turning me off and making her "flop"


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it wasnt really directed at you, but in general, people wanting her to appeal to the lamestream just isnt gonna happen, shes not the it girl anymore, shes established, as is beyonce, etc. so to cope with that, they just make harsh, sweeping accusations at gaga's work, and its so ugh. why cant you guys just be happy with what she does?? shes progressed way beyond her fame monster days, her work has gotten a lot better, i dont know what else more she can do to please you guys.... 

 

That is the problem: it hasn't. And I feel like it had the potential to be better, but she wants to prove so much that she's not basic that she flops, because she doesn't know how to make things right on her own.

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Jeff Kunst

Sometimes you have to take Gaga off of this pedestal you all have her on and really look at stuff in depth.

 

I feel like some of you guys are so in awe of Gaga and she means SO much to you that you're in denial about stuff like this.

 

Maybe actually make a good argument before you just decide that everyone is in denial of it.

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Also, if the GP wasn't connecting with Applause, it wouldn't be in the top 10 after 52 days

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SummerGirl21

You have some valid thoughts.  But it's nice that Gaga has full control over her career.  I would rather her do what she is doing and not be as successful commercially than have her do the same kind of things Katy is doing.  YAWN.  Sure, Roar is catchy and the video is cute.  But my corgi is cute.  If I was looking for cute in an artist, I wouldn't be a Gaga fan. 

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The video I pictured/wanted for Applause was SO different that the one we got. :fat: and the VMA performance was not as epic as I hoped for, so yeah I feel you.  :fat:

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dontbesweet

I know you are just sharing your thoughts. But Gaga really loves art. That is what she wants to do and that is what she will continue doing even if many people don't like it. Gaga will continue to take risks even if she flops because that is just who she is. You can't change her.

I really love art. I really love Gaga.

 

But her work isn't as good now as it has been because of poor artistic decisions, not on Gaga's part, but more of choosing poor directors, making sloppy stuff etc.

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I fully agree. She works with friends which is not the best thing to do. I mean yes she still makes good art but look at all her work with professional people like Steven Klein.

 

Who made that ugly confusing Alejandro video that brought more negativity than any other. Cause he did same crap as her does for Madonna.

 

Many "professions" make sucky videos.

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LetsGetHigh

Also I would like to add, Gaga might be egotistic, but she is the least egotistic between all those mainstream pop singers in the industry now, so egotistic that she adores her fans and invites them backstage with her, so egotistic that everyone that has met her say she is so down to Earth.

 

SO EGOTISTIC!!!!!11!!!1!!

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Jeff Kunst
But I'm saying, it's obviously more fun for fans to have Gaga as the 'biggest popstar in the world' - without massive sales, there won't be massive tours, there won't be massive budgets for music videos etc.

 

That's totally fine by me. Most of my favorite musicians are not the biggest in the world and they're doing fine.

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dontbesweet

Maybe actually make a good argument before you just decide that everyone is in denial of it.

Read the AP and my posts.

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AlienFugitive

unlike the basics.. uhmm Katy/Rihanna

Please don't.

 

Katy writes (some of) lyrics to her songs and Rihanna is involved in every project (whether it is her album, music video, or something else)

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That's totally fine by me. Most of my favorite musicians are not the biggest in the world and they're doing fine.

You're obviously not going to allow us to come to some sort of agreement because I won't 100% agree with your views which are evidently 100000% correct and more superior to mine, so let's be done.

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Why can't you just criticize her songs or video?

Why an elaborate speculative theory impuning her as egoistic and telling her how to manage the Haus?

 

Because I'm a fan and I have the right to say something about the work she presents?

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People saying she won't be around if GP rejects her :wtf:

 

She WOULD be around, just not AS BIG AS SHE USED TO BE. And that is perfectly okay. Jesus, I swear I don't have any tolerance left for this whole drama anymore. Everyone who thinks Gaga is over and a flop can kindly leave and let us reasonable fans enjoy the ride.

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