Americano 31,061 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Share Posted May 26, 2013 Lets not do the most on Swift OR Gaga. Not every single will be a mega-hit, whether it's '22' or 'Judas,' but regardless 'RED' and 'Born This Way' albums sold plenty. /end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star 4,409 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 . My child Us views, k? So it is not confimed that if all views are sales for MTN! Also 22 has views and other Us streaming! K -_- Excuse my language for calling you a child, i have been saying that in ATRL But can you explain why is BR a diamond certified? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I'm surprised Taylor still hasn't crossed the 4M with Red and is now selling less a week than 21. It's kinda embarrassing how she's alienated her core demographic and now couldn't match her last record despite the hit singles. Begin Again did pretty badly on Country in comparison to the singles from SN so there's definitely the sense that they're turning away from her. As I said in the fall, Red's jackrabbit sales start was more a sign of big artists having incresingly front loaded sales, than a real growth in her fanbase. The flip side of that is big sales slowdowns after 6 months. Digital music makes it easy for people to decide whether to buy or not. They didn't need 3 radio hit etc. Physical albums get pushed hard by big box retailers when they arrive, then fade away. If she's alienated country fans, we won't have solid evidence until the next album. The fact that her break-up song formula has made her a punchline isn't a good sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty 2,758 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I feel like the Red era has defined Taylor as a media punching bag more than it has a cross-over pop star, but regardless, I think both are why she's losing fans. Radio country abandoned her, and apparently so did her country fans. People know her more as the girl who dates around and writes songs about her exes than they do her music. The 22 backlash is a perfect example - radio won't add it and people won't buy it, and this is sad because unlike a song like Marry The Night, 22 fits in perfectly on radio and sounds just like her past singles. It should've been an easy hit but wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommymonster44 0 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I feel like the Red era has defined Taylor as a media punching bag more than it has a cross-over pop star, but regardless, I think both are why she's losing fans. Radio country abandoned her, and apparently so did her country fans. People know her more as the girl who dates around and writes songs about her exes than they do her music. The 22 backlash is a perfect example - radio won't add it and people won't buy it, and this is sad because unlike a song like Marry The Night, 22 fits in perfectly on radio and sounds just like her past singles. It should've been an easy hit but wasn't. I feel like this album did fine. It'll be her next few albums to determine if she's going to be a dying fad or a longtime sales force in the music industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free As My Hair 0 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Crazy Kids: #164 Ft. Will I Am: #355 Another version: #1445 Combined does anybody know what this is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzy 2,192 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 .Excuse my language for calling you a child, i have been saying that in ATRL But can you explain why is BR a diamond certified? There are other streaming alservices in US as well! Proof: Rolling in The Deep is only 8x Platinum after selling more than like 7.7 million and has 400 million + views! I hope you understand, and it's okay for calling me child and all! :kisses: “The scars on my mind are on Replay” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorPrince 1 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Gentleman's sales are so ironic. And Psy was happy that he wasnt a one hit wonder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 . Gentleman's sales are so ironic. And Psy was happy that he wasnt a one hit wonder He spoke too soon... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofmike 127 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Why isn't Red a single. Like Taylor are you drunk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 .Crazy Kids: #164 Ft. Will I Am: #355 Another version: #1445 Combined does anybody know what this is?#163 :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think you guys should skim through this. REALLY interesting. Gaga was the most streamed artist of 2011! http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120105005547/en/Nielsen-Company-Billboard%E2%80%99s-2011-Music-Industry-Report Here are Gaga's positions for the BTW era: 2011 TOP TEN SELLING ALBUMS (1/3/2011-1/1/2012) 3 Born This Way/ Lady Gaga 2,101,000 2011 TOP TEN SELLING ARTISTS (Based on Album sales from 1/3/2011-1/1/2012) 4 Lady Gaga 2,828,000 2011 TOP TEN SELLING DIGITAL SONGS (Combines all versions of same Song: 1/3/2011-1/1/2012) 10. Born This Way/ Lady Gaga 3,476,000 2011 TOP TEN SELLING DIGITAL ALBUMS (1/3/2011-1/1/2012) 2 Born This Way/ Lady Gaga 877,000 2011 TOP TEN SELLING DIGITAL ARTISTS (Based on digital track sales from 1/3/2011 – 1/1/2012) 5 Lady Gaga 12,768,000 2011 TOP TEN INTERNET ALBUMS (1/3/2011-1/1/2012) 5 Born This Way/ Lady Gaga 77,800 2011 TOP TEN PHYSICAL ALBUMS (Based on CD, Cassette and LP album sales from 1/3/2011-1/1/2012) 5 Born This Way/ Lady Gaga 1,223,000 Top 10 Artist Airplay *for the 2011 Calendar Year 3 Lady Gaga 1,261,000 Nielsen BDS: Top 10 Artists - Streams *for the 2011 Calendar Year 1 Lady Gaga 135,606,000 Nielsen BDS: Top 10 Streamed Songs *for the 2011 Calendar Year 6 Born This Way/ Lady Gaga 36,580,000 Nielsen BDS: Top 10 Music Video Streams *for the 2011 Calendar Year 7 Born This Way/ Lady Gaga 25,130,000 Flop era? What? Am I not understanding? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorPrince 1 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Glad to know that she was the most streamed artist even though she was competing agaisnt Adele, LMFAO and Katy Perry which had much bigger hits. Also #3 on airplay? Her A.I is relatively low so it's a surprising position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy8923 9 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Glad to know that she was the most streamed artist even though she was competing agaisnt Adele, LMFAO and Katy Perry which had much bigger hits. Also #3 on airplay? Her A.I is relatively low so it's a surprising position. Well, it's really NOT low, I know BTW peaked at #1 on radio and TEOG reached like #4. They just seem really low in comparison because of how inflated #'s have gotten since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorPrince 1 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Well, it's really NOT low, I know BTW peaked at #1 on radio and TEOG reached like #4. They just seem really low in comparison because of how inflated #'s have gotten since then. They are not low, but they are relatively low comparing to other top 40 artists such as Bruno, Katy, LMFAO, Adele, JT, Rihanna etc. BTW going #1 on radio while peaking at 109.8M is like HIAM going #1 while selling less than 1.6M. Plus she had three radio flops (inb4 someone comes here and argues with me saying that Y&I wasnt a radio flop) You and I: 65.121m Judas 36.919m Marry The Night: 35.648m So yes, it's rather surprising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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