Biggest mistake during ARTPOP era?

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 32,837]

1 hour ago, nATAH said:

in favour of DWUW? lol no, because now that song is scrubbed from history

in favour of a different song? maybe, definitely debateable. i don't care for Venus much so my point is more about the long term rather than short term now that we are 13 years down the line

but seeing how a few songs from her early catalogue keep getting picked up on tiktok and spiking in streams (Bloody Mary, Judas), sticking with Venus would have opened that opportunity up too but what we got instead was a song that we must not mention

You’re absolutely right about the long term, I was talking about that exact time, when Gaga’s #1 career issue was that the GP was TIRED of her antics

I think Venus was a terrible choice. Even a sexual song like Sexxx Dreams would’ve been easier to swallow for the GP

[nATAH 59,925]

38 minutes ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said:

Even a sexual song like Sexxx Dreams would’ve been easier to swallow for the GP

i doubt it, having such a directly explicit song is right up there with being another gaga antic

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 32,837]

44 minutes ago, nATAH said:

i doubt it, having such a directly explicit song is right up there with being another gaga antic

Yeah but a dance song repetedly stopping for gay acapella vocals saying “Venus” is quite literally a whole new dimension 

Edited Wednesday at 03:12 PM by AVeryGagaHolyDick

[Julien Lockhart 853]

The album itself when all the demos are better ?

Playing the victim all the time 

[nATAH 59,925]

28 minutes ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said:

Yeah but a dance song repetedly stopping for gay acapella vocals saying “Venus” is quite literally a whole new dimension 

i'd argue it's way less "antics" than a literal song about sex though

Venus, at most, is silly and people weren't annoyed with her being fun and silly

[IllusionLover 8,027]

Not making it a visual album. 

Same with Chromatica.

#Justice4theGirls

[Adelka Jergova 360]

definitely the leaking of Aura, the mess of the singles, and not putting some fan favorites (Princess Die, Brooklyn Nights, Partynauseous) on the album

also R Kelly 😭

 

[StrawberryBlond 15,834]

It was an accumulation of everything. But launching at the same time as Katy Perry's new era was a rookie error. It's laughable to think of Katy being a threat to Gaga now but back then, she was at her career peak so anything she did was going to gain automatic support from radio and GP alike. Gaga just had her fans to carry her on this one and that isn't enough. Roar was the biggest song in the world and we delusional souls tried to believe Gaga could turn it all around but Katy's run was just too powerful. Not to say her era went perfectly either because truth be told, she only had 2 big hits with it as opposed to Teenage Dreams 8 back-to-back hits but next to her, any popstar would've looked like they were failing. Now we get Gaga releasing around the same time or even the same year as Katy and she reigns supreme, so the tables have sure turned on that one. But at the time, I think their labels thought it would be a great marketing strategy to play them off against each other to make a fan war and maximise sales but it just didn't work out like that. But KatyCats who were awful to us in those years had to have a huge slice of humble pie not long after!

[PornoDanceFight 2,839]

I love that she fought so hard for this record, so much so that now people have reassessed its legacy, but I think leaning more into the club-kid-at-the-Guggenheim aspect of it could have helped the era and the lofty ideas (and sometimes lack thereof/the “possibilities”) gel more.

[Starmie25 23,116]

12 hours ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said:

repetedly stopping for gay acapella vocals saying “Venus” is quite literally a whole new dimension 

You might have a point 

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSpuVxMs1/

[alexcal24 128]

Gee the big question - I'd say doing Do What U Want with Piss Kelly and not including the solo version, also delaying the era (even though it wasn't her fault) didnt help matters with the general public. I wonder if Bobby was in charge what could have been for ARTPOP. It was all chaotic indeed for the era but the biggest mistake was that she collabed with him. Also Jewels and Drugs lol

[alexcal24 128]

20 hours ago, IllusionLover said:

Not making it a visual album. 

Same with Chromatica.

#Justice4theGirls

Seriously Chromatica deserved better. I'm still waiting for the explanation of its universe. 

[Bronco 29,917]

23 hours ago, Cherry Blues said:

But some people say ARTPOP was ahead of it's time. 

I feel like it's just Charli XCX's brief success with Brat that made that claim become so common (it was said before Brat, but I saw a lot of people saying Brat was the evidence of it). 

And like...
I don't think ARTPOP was ahead of its time (although some tracks absolutely were experimental like Aura and have found increased love over the years). I think it was very much of its time, and what we have at the moment is way more of a renaissance for the genre. 
Like Brat isn't groundbreaking, it's just the album that resurrected that genre in the (american) pop culture. 

[Starmie25 23,116]

43 minutes ago, alexcal24 said:

Seriously Chromatica deserved better. I'm still waiting for the explanation of its universe. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyGaga/s/3Etac3LMvt 

[Cherry Blues 826]

8 hours ago, Bronco said:

I feel like it's just Charli XCX's brief success with Brat that made that claim become so common (it was said before Brat, but I saw a lot of people saying Brat was the evidence of it). 

And like...
I don't think ARTPOP was ahead of its time (although some tracks absolutely were experimental like Aura and have found increased love over the years). I think it was very much of its time, and what we have at the moment is way more of a renaissance for the genre. 
Like Brat isn't groundbreaking, it's just the album that resurrected that genre in the (american) pop culture. 

One could say that the chaotic feeling of ARTPOP is a forerunner of today's music. Some say it is the forerunner of hyperpop. I'm just happy that Lady Gaga has her Thriller with The Fame Monster 👌 

Edited 18 hours ago by Cherry Blues