AVeryGagaHolyDick 32,837 Posted Wednesday at 01:47 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:47 PM 1 hour ago, nATAH said: in favour of DWUW? lol no, because now that song is scrubbed from history in favour of a different song? maybe, definitely debateable. i don't care for Venus much so my point is more about the long term rather than short term now that we are 13 years down the line but seeing how a few songs from her early catalogue keep getting picked up on tiktok and spiking in streams (Bloody Mary, Judas), sticking with Venus would have opened that opportunity up too but what we got instead was a song that we must not mention You’re absolutely right about the long term, I was talking about that exact time, when Gaga’s #1 career issue was that the GP was TIRED of her antics I think Venus was a terrible choice. Even a sexual song like Sexxx Dreams would’ve been easier to swallow for the GP 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 59,925 Posted Wednesday at 02:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:27 PM 38 minutes ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said: Even a sexual song like Sexxx Dreams would’ve been easier to swallow for the GP i doubt it, having such a directly explicit song is right up there with being another gaga antic mother, what must i do? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 32,837 Posted Wednesday at 03:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:11 PM (edited) 44 minutes ago, nATAH said: i doubt it, having such a directly explicit song is right up there with being another gaga antic Yeah but a dance song repetedly stopping for gay acapella vocals saying “Venus” is quite literally a whole new dimension Edited Wednesday at 03:12 PM by AVeryGagaHolyDick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Lockhart 853 Posted Wednesday at 03:24 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:24 PM The album itself when all the demos are better ? Playing the victim all the time He ate my heart Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 59,925 Posted Wednesday at 03:41 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:41 PM 28 minutes ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said: Yeah but a dance song repetedly stopping for gay acapella vocals saying “Venus” is quite literally a whole new dimension i'd argue it's way less "antics" than a literal song about sex though Venus, at most, is silly and people weren't annoyed with her being fun and silly mother, what must i do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllusionLover 8,027 Posted Wednesday at 03:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:43 PM Not making it a visual album. Same with Chromatica. #Justice4theGirls 13 | this is my dancefloor i fought for, your voice is louder, it echoes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelka Jergova 360 Posted Wednesday at 04:52 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:52 PM definitely the leaking of Aura, the mess of the singles, and not putting some fan favorites (Princess Die, Brooklyn Nights, Partynauseous) on the album also R Kelly 😭 Returning in Avengers Doomsday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 15,834 Posted yesterday at 12:09 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:09 AM It was an accumulation of everything. But launching at the same time as Katy Perry's new era was a rookie error. It's laughable to think of Katy being a threat to Gaga now but back then, she was at her career peak so anything she did was going to gain automatic support from radio and GP alike. Gaga just had her fans to carry her on this one and that isn't enough. Roar was the biggest song in the world and we delusional souls tried to believe Gaga could turn it all around but Katy's run was just too powerful. Not to say her era went perfectly either because truth be told, she only had 2 big hits with it as opposed to Teenage Dreams 8 back-to-back hits but next to her, any popstar would've looked like they were failing. Now we get Gaga releasing around the same time or even the same year as Katy and she reigns supreme, so the tables have sure turned on that one. But at the time, I think their labels thought it would be a great marketing strategy to play them off against each other to make a fan war and maximise sales but it just didn't work out like that. But KatyCats who were awful to us in those years had to have a huge slice of humble pie not long after! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PornoDanceFight 2,839 Posted yesterday at 03:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:48 AM I love that she fought so hard for this record, so much so that now people have reassessed its legacy, but I think leaning more into the club-kid-at-the-Guggenheim aspect of it could have helped the era and the lofty ideas (and sometimes lack thereof/the “possibilities”) gel more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmie25 23,116 Posted yesterday at 04:01 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:01 AM 12 hours ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said: repetedly stopping for gay acapella vocals saying “Venus” is quite literally a whole new dimension You might have a point https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSpuVxMs1/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcal24 128 Posted yesterday at 10:35 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:35 AM Gee the big question - I'd say doing Do What U Want with Piss Kelly and not including the solo version, also delaying the era (even though it wasn't her fault) didnt help matters with the general public. I wonder if Bobby was in charge what could have been for ARTPOP. It was all chaotic indeed for the era but the biggest mistake was that she collabed with him. Also Jewels and Drugs lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcal24 128 Posted yesterday at 12:20 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:20 PM 20 hours ago, IllusionLover said: Not making it a visual album. Same with Chromatica. #Justice4theGirls Seriously Chromatica deserved better. I'm still waiting for the explanation of its universe. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 29,917 Posted yesterday at 12:29 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:29 PM 23 hours ago, Cherry Blues said: But some people say ARTPOP was ahead of it's time. I feel like it's just Charli XCX's brief success with Brat that made that claim become so common (it was said before Brat, but I saw a lot of people saying Brat was the evidence of it). And like... I don't think ARTPOP was ahead of its time (although some tracks absolutely were experimental like Aura and have found increased love over the years). I think it was very much of its time, and what we have at the moment is way more of a renaissance for the genre. Like Brat isn't groundbreaking, it's just the album that resurrected that genre in the (american) pop culture. The gays know how to party Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmie25 23,116 Posted yesterday at 01:06 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:06 PM 43 minutes ago, alexcal24 said: Seriously Chromatica deserved better. I'm still waiting for the explanation of its universe. https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyGaga/s/3Etac3LMvt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Blues 826 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 8 hours ago, Bronco said: I feel like it's just Charli XCX's brief success with Brat that made that claim become so common (it was said before Brat, but I saw a lot of people saying Brat was the evidence of it). And like... I don't think ARTPOP was ahead of its time (although some tracks absolutely were experimental like Aura and have found increased love over the years). I think it was very much of its time, and what we have at the moment is way more of a renaissance for the genre. Like Brat isn't groundbreaking, it's just the album that resurrected that genre in the (american) pop culture. One could say that the chaotic feeling of ARTPOP is a forerunner of today's music. Some say it is the forerunner of hyperpop. I'm just happy that Lady Gaga has her Thriller with The Fame Monster 👌 Edited 18 hours ago by Cherry Blues Lovers kiss in a garden made of thorns, traces of lonely words... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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