Ed Sheeran addresses dropping Macklemore at his concert

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27 minutes ago, Helxig said:

This is why I love my queens Ashnikko, Melanie Martinez, Hayley Williams. Speaking about it and shouting "Free Palestine" "f.uck ICE" etc at their shows unapologetically. Nothing happens without people using their platforms to make some noise. Influence is power in 2026

I wish Gaga had a bit more of her early career rebellious spirit. No shade to her, she supports the right things in her own way, but I do like when celebrities are loud about social justice. I think of Jane Fonda as the ultimate role model in that regard

Jane Fonda is such an icon!

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4 hours ago, Helxig said:

Something I absolutely love about my queen Hayley Williams is that she would literally say at her Paramore shows "if you're (X Y Z kind of bad person) get out right now because we don't want you here". It's that punk attitude that lives inside her. Stand for people's rights no matter what, no tolerance for the evil

Here's a statement made by a person with a real backbone:

“I don’t want racists around, and I don’t want sexist people around, and I don’t want people there who think that trans people are a burden ... I think that’s a hard line for me now. I hope it naturally happens that people who do harbour those harmful ideologies aren’t going to feel welcome, because they’re going to walk in the door and realise that the gang’s all here, all banded together around something positive ... All are welcome if you believe all should be welcome… If you don’t believe that, you’re not welcome!”

But she still opened for Taylor, despite her (and most of her fans) MAGA connections 

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7 hours ago, Helxig said:

This is why I love my queens Ashnikko, Melanie Martinez, Hayley Williams. Speaking about it and shouting "Free Palestine" "f.uck ICE" etc at their shows unapologetically. Nothing happens without people using their platforms to make some noise. Influence is power in 2026

I wish Gaga had a bit more of her early career rebellious spirit. No shade to her, she supports the right things in her own way, but I do like when celebrities are loud about social justice. I think of Jane Fonda as the ultimate role model in that regard

With all due respect, it’s easier to speak up when you’re not necessarily a household name and your comments are unlikely to make much waves outside of your own circle…

Even though the support and honestly is appreciated, Ashnikko speaking up is unlikely to make the news, so it’s hardly comparable to acts like Ed or Gaga doing the same. The stakes are wildly different.

Edited September 22 by elijahfan

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2 hours ago, elijahfan said:

With all due respect, it’s easier to speak up when you’re not necessarily a household name and your comments are unlikely to make much waves outside of your own circle…

Even though the support and honestly is appreciated, Ashnikko speaking up is unlikely to make the news, so it’s hardly comparable to acts like Ed or Gaga doing the same. The stakes are wildly different.

Sure, the stakes are wildly different. If the topic at hand is a genocide, though, I do not care what kind of consequences speaking up has for famous acts such as Ed or Gaga. They are people who live extraordinary lives while accumulating wealth most others can't even dream of. No one expects them to sacrifice themselves, but rather to use their reach to try and make a change for humans that are being systematically killed. If it costs them some of their popularity and/or money, so be it. They'll live, unlike those poor souls erased in Ghaza.

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2 hours ago, elijahfan said:

With all due respect, it’s easier to speak up when you’re not necessarily a household name and your comments are unlikely to make much waves outside of your own circle…

Even though the support and honestly is appreciated, Ashnikko speaking up is unlikely to make the news, so it’s hardly comparable to acts like Ed or Gaga doing the same. The stakes are wildly different.

Yeah that's true. But one could also argue that the people who have that many eyes on them are the most influential of all and have the most power to spread awareness or create change. But there's definitely a level of self preservation that governs all of our decisions in life which is instinctual

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2 hours ago, elijahfan said:

With all due respect, it’s easier to speak up when you’re not necessarily a household name and your comments are unlikely to make much waves outside of your own circle…

Even though the support and honestly is appreciated, Ashnikko speaking up is unlikely to make the news, so it’s hardly comparable to acts like Ed or Gaga doing the same. The stakes are wildly different.

I mean the stakes are wildly different, but you've not actually identified the reason why.

Smaller artists may make less waves, but those small waves can completely destroy their only source of income. 
Larger artists may make larger waves, but they have reached a level of wealth that they could retire tomorrow and never need to work again because society is designed to ensure the wealthy maintain wealth passively. 

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3 minutes ago, Bronco said:

I mean the stakes are wildly different, but you've not actually identified the reason why.

Smaller artists may make less waves, but those small waves can completely destroy their only source of income. 
Larger artists may make larger waves, but they have reached a level of wealth that they could retire tomorrow and never need to work again because society is designed to ensure the wealthy maintain wealth passively. 

Agreed, it should be even more appreciated with smaller artists 'cause they might be risking everything they have / their chance on a music career

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10 hours ago, Helxig said:

Something I absolutely love about my queen Hayley Williams is that she would literally say at her Paramore shows "if you're (X Y Z kind of bad person) get out right now because we don't want you here". It's that punk attitude that lives inside her. Stand for people's rights no matter what, no tolerance for the evil

Here's a statement made by a person with a real backbone:

“I don’t want racists around, and I don’t want sexist people around, and I don’t want people there who think that trans people are a burden ... I think that’s a hard line for me now. I hope it naturally happens that people who do harbour those harmful ideologies aren’t going to feel welcome, because they’re going to walk in the door and realise that the gang’s all here, all banded together around something positive ... All are welcome if you believe all should be welcome… If you don’t believe that, you’re not welcome!”

I love this so much ! 
I also read your other post right below this one and I couldn’t agree more.

 

Just like you, I wish Gaga still had this kind of punk mindset. 

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1 hour ago, SleepingSun said:

Sure, the stakes are wildly different. If the topic at hand is a genocide, though, I do not care what kind of consequences speaking up has for famous acts such as Ed or Gaga. They are people who live extraordinary lives while accumulating wealth most others can't even dream of. No one expects them to sacrifice themselves, but rather to use their reach to try and make a change for humans that are being systematically killed. If it costs them some of their popularity and/or money, so be it. They'll live, unlike those poor souls erased in Ghaza.

I mean… maybe you don’t care, but they do.

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46 minutes ago, Bronco said:

I mean the stakes are wildly different, but you've not actually identified the reason why.

Smaller artists may make less waves, but those small waves can completely destroy their only source of income. 
Larger artists may make larger waves, but they have reached a level of wealth that they could retire tomorrow and never need to work again because society is designed to ensure the wealthy maintain wealth passively. 

You shouldn’t forget that the entertainment industry is a fickle world, you can crash down as quickly as you climb up, and the higher you get, the bigger the fall. The audience arguably loves a good cancel story, let’s not pretend big artists are immune to consequences.

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11 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

You shouldn’t forget that the entertainment industry is a fickle world, you can crash down as quickly as you climb up, and the higher you get, the bigger the fall. The audience arguably loves a good cancel story, let’s not pretend big artists are immune to consequences.

But a cancel story doesn't delete wealth. 
 

Multimilionaires being cancelled doesn't destroy their economic life. Again, because wealth accrues passively. 
The avg US savings account returns between 0.4% and 0.6% APY. 

The median savings balance for the average US citizen is $8000. So at current interest rates, the average person accrues $32 after a year of compounded interest returns. 

Where as, a multimilionaire who only puts $1mil in, would gain $4000 in the same period. 
By doing nothing. 
And that's just by using the most basic of savings accounts. Never mind stocks & shares etc. Or the fact that preferential rates are given to the wealthy for these kinds of accounts. 

So this idea that Ed Sheeran, who's worth $400 million and is one of the richest people in the UK would end up destitute by speaking out is insane. 

Jane Fonda was cancelled after the Hanoi Jane incident, she was on a government watchlist for her activism, she was arrested on the orders of the President - still worth $250 million in 2026. 
Kanye West literally endorsed Hitler and has an estimated networth of $400 million (he claims it's nearly $3bn).

This idea that Ed or Gaga just saying "don't bomb kids in Gaza" would destroy them is truly laughable tbh. As an idea, its totally disconnected from the real world. 

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20 hours ago, Bronco said:

But a cancel story doesn't delete wealth. 
 

Multimilionaires being cancelled doesn't destroy their economic life. Again, because wealth accrues passively. 
The avg US savings account returns between 0.4% and 0.6% APY. 

The median savings balance for the average US citizen is $8000. So at current interest rates, the average person accrues $32 after a year of compounded interest returns. 

Where as, a multimilionaire who only puts $1mil in, would gain $4000 in the same period. 
By doing nothing. 
And that's just by using the most basic of savings accounts. Never mind stocks & shares etc. Or the fact that preferential rates are given to the wealthy for these kinds of accounts. 

So this idea that Ed Sheeran, who's worth $400 million and is one of the richest people in the UK would end up destitute by speaking out is insane. 

Jane Fonda was cancelled after the Hanoi Jane incident, she was on a government watchlist for her activism, she was arrested on the orders of the President - still worth $250 million in 2026. 
Kanye West literally endorsed Hitler and has an estimated networth of $400 million (he claims it's nearly $3bn).

This idea that Ed or Gaga just saying "don't bomb kids in Gaza" would destroy them is truly laughable tbh. As an idea, its totally disconnected from the real world. 

It’s not just about money, it’s about work, opportunities and reputation— he might still be loaded, but Kanye is having a hard damn time booking venues nowadays.

I think it’s kinda easy to tell people what they should do when none of us have the full context of their lives and are in their shoes — it shouldn’t be lost on anyone that most Hollywood decision makers in positions of power are Jews, and it’s been that way for over a century.

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Just now, elijahfan said:

It’s not just about money, it’s about work, opportunities and reputation— he might still be loaded, but Kanye is having a hard damn time booking venues nowadays.

I think it’s kinda easy to tell people what they should do when none of us have the full context of their lives and are in their shoes — it shouldn’t be lost on anyone that most Hollywood decision makers in positions of power are Jews, and it’s been that way for over a century.

But its entirely about money when we are talking about people's future after taking political stances. 

Kanye might be having booking venues in Europe.

But he's not destitute. He's not bankrupt. His standard of living has not declined, and even if it had done so - he is still living a life of utter safety totally removed from the dangers of poverty. 

Who gives a **** if someone can't work but has a 1% standard of living to be quite honest. 

You've set to be able to offer a coherent reason as to why someone who is financially vulnerable has an easier time of being an activist than someone who's economically secure for life.

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3 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

it shouldn’t be lost on anyone that most Hollywood decision makers in positions of power are Jews

Also

This is wild.

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12 minutes ago, Bronco said:

But its entirely about money when we are talking about people's future after taking political stances. 

Kanye might be having booking venues in Europe.

But he's not destitute. He's not bankrupt. His standard of living has not declined, and even if it had done so - he is still living a life of utter safety totally removed from the dangers of poverty. 

Who gives a **** if someone can't work but has a 1% standard of living to be quite honest. 

You've set to be able to offer a coherent reason as to why someone who is financially vulnerable has an easier time of being an activist than someone who's economically secure for life.

I mean if it were so easy, then why aren’t more people willing to speak up? I’m fairly sure no one wants or celebrates the killing of children. Once again, it’s easy to be morally virtuous behind your keyboard and pretend that there isn’t a bit of room reading to be done. You’re judging other people’s decisions from the prism of your own life and experience — sorry but, once again, you are not in these people’s shoes.

12 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Also

This is wild.

This is factual, and quite an important piece of context if you want to understand the very subject we’re currently talking about.

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