Ed Sheeran addresses dropping Macklemore at his concert

[Bronco 28,138]

39 minutes ago, Sarah H said:

I'm not a fan of his, and obviously I think it's fine for people to criticise his actions, but I do think the hate he's getting for this has gone OTT. 

He can't lie straight in bed though. 

Even here he's repeating the lie that he's stayed out of politics and tried to be an apolitical act which is just a total lie. 

He got caught with his pants down and is desperately hoping some rich white boy tears will make everyone look away.

[onTheBrink 1,803]

32 minutes ago, Addison Rae said:

sorry but i have zero respect for artists that are too comfortable playing the apolitical fence, only “speaking out” when it’s convenient for them, what a load of horse **** 

It's impossible to be side-less, trying to be an artist and side-less is just so cowardly. Like you're supposed to be an artist with a point of view and you're trying to claim you don't have one

[Notorious Bean 8,551]

I agree with @Sarah Hit's fine to criticise his actions/decisions around the tour, but some of the personal hate has gone way too far where it feels like bullying and that’s wrong to me.

28 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

Israel is murdering Palestinian kids left and right, tell them that and see the reaction sis 

Treating Ed like he's personally responsible for what's happening in Gaza doesn't make sense to me. especially when he's said it was the promoters who made the call to remove Macklemore. We don't actually know his personal politics on Palestine. Ed seems like a nice person even though I’m not a fan of him in any way, he clearly hasn’t got much knowledge when it comes to this kind of thing. 

I understand why people are angry about Macklemore being removed after saying Free Palestine, but I think we can make that point without it turning into harassment 

[onTheBrink 1,803]

And since when is any of Ed Sheeran's music 'unifying'? I don't feel connected to my fellow man listening to Shape Of You?

[Future Lovers 7,853]

If he can't drum up something better than this he needs to just stop talking. I don't know who on his PR team is telling him that these sorts of no-stance, fence sitter statements are gonna make this go away because all this is doing is making him look worse and worse. 

[alsemanche 97,852]

6 minutes ago, Notorious Bean said:

I agree with @Sarah Hit's fine to criticise his actions/decisions around the tour, but some of the personal hate has gone way too far where it feels like bullying and that’s wrong to me.

Treating Ed like he's personally responsible for what's happening in Gaza doesn't make sense to me. especially when he's said it was the promoters who made the call to remove Macklemore. We don't actually know his personal politics on Palestine. Ed seems like a nice person even though I’m not a fan of him in any way, he clearly hasn’t got much knowledge when it comes to this kind of thing. 

I understand why people are angry about Macklemore being removed after saying Free Palestine, but I think we can make that point without it turning into harassment 

Who gives a **** about (rightful and justified) harassment of a public figure who is literally both siding his way through this mess when a literal genocide is going on? You guys are nowhere near as angry as you should be about the literal ethnic cleansing of an entire population (and more) what the hell? His politics are clear and he's not a nice person because no nice person would tip toe around this bullshit to preserve their career when they could be raising actual awareness and enacting actual change. Much smaller public  figures who have MUCH more to lose have taken a stand and done actual activism while this idiot is still playing his fake centrist apolitical card. 

[Future Lovers 7,853]

55 minutes ago, Sarah H said:

I'm not a fan of his, and obviously I think it's fine for people to criticise his actions, but I do think the hate he's getting for this has gone OTT. 

In what way? 

He bent knee to what he knew was censorship of an artist he claimed to be a friend. He has now provided three statements, all of which fail to actually address the core of the issue. He has both-sides an ongoing atrocity that has a very clear aggressor and victim. He has reiterated that he is an apolitical artist (no such thing, by the way), despite sharing multiple political opinions both in his music and in public statements in the past. 

If anything, the response he's gotten has been more muted than it deserves. He has knowingly and willingly aided a multi-billionaire in censoring an individual's point of view because he disagreed with that point of view. That is a clear violation of Macklemore's right to free speech and Ed allowed it to happen. 

[alsemanche 97,852]

You'd think years of genocide would make people wake tf up but i guess tf not my god

Edited Sunday at 09:34 AM by alsemanche

[Future Lovers 7,853]

11 minutes ago, Notorious Bean said:

 

Treating Ed like he's personally responsible for what's happening in Gaza doesn't make sense to me.

Nobody is doing that, and if that's what you're taking from the discussion, then you're either not paying attention or you haven't a clue what the reality of the situation is.

We're treating Ed like he is personally responsible for aiding in the censorship of a fellow artist at the hands of a MAGA billionaire while publicly minimizing the issue that said artist was bringing attention to by repeating propagandist language that obscures the intense, brutal reality of the atrocity that lies at the center of this whole thing.

He is responsible for that. 

[ALGAYDO 35,509]

11 minutes ago, Notorious Bean said:

Treating Ed like he's personally responsible for what's happening in Gaza doesn't make sense to me. especially when he's said it was the promoters who made the call to remove Macklemore. We don't actually know his personal politics on Palestine. Ed seems like a nice person even though I’m not a fan of him in any way, he clearly hasn’t got much knowledge when it comes to this kind of thing. 

Nobody is doing that tho. Nobody in their right mind is blaming Ed for what’s happening to the Palestinians. But he did choose as side by being complacent and taking the “both sides” approach to it all. What he did to Mack is a slap in the face to all of those Palestinians suffering. So no, the hate he’s getting isn’t unjustified, it’s perfectly in tune with what’s happening. And him being too ignorant on the matter isn’t an excuse. He knows what’s happening and he knows it’s wrong. He just chose profit over morals and that’s okay to call out. 

[Grissem 106]

He removed the B stage of tonight's show (where he usually was surrounded by the audience) out of fear what the audience would be like and how they would react to him, he told the audience himself 

Honestly should have just cancelled the rest of the US concerts after this fiasco

[Notorious Bean 8,551]

 

1 hour ago, ALGAYDO said:

Nobody is doing that tho. Nobody in their right mind is blaming Ed for what’s happening to the Palestinians. But he did choose as side by being complacent and taking the “both sides” approach to it all. What he did to Mack is a slap in the face to all of those Palestinians suffering. So no, the hate he’s getting isn’t unjustified, it’s perfectly in tune with what’s happening. And him being too ignorant on the matter isn’t an excuse. He knows what’s happening and he knows it’s wrong. He just chose profit over morals and that’s okay to call out. 

1 hour ago, Future Lovers said:

Nobody is doing that, and if that's what you're taking from the discussion, then you're either not paying attention or you haven't a clue what the reality of the situation is.

We're treating Ed like he is personally responsible for aiding in the censorship of a fellow artist at the hands of a MAGA billionaire while publicly minimizing the issue that said artist was bringing attention to by repeating propagandist language that obscures the intense, brutal reality of the atrocity that lies at the center of this whole thing.

He is responsible for that. 

I'm not disagreeing that Ed is responsible for his part in the tour situation or for how he worded his statement. If people want to criticise him for being complacent / taking a both sides approach / not pushing back on the promoters, that's completely valid and I get why people are angry about it.

My only point from the start was that the level of personal hate with DM harassment, slur-filled posts and celebrating cancelling an artist has gone OTT and crossed from accountability into bullying. 

I'm not saying we shouldn’t call him out but call out what he's actually responsible for without the horrible messages he’s getting 

[elijahfan 27,596]

2 hours ago, ALGAYDO said:

Israel is murdering Palestinian kids left and right, tell them that and see the reaction sis 

Agreed, but why is it artists that we seem to hold accountable beyond reason? Where is this energy when it comes to politicians who could ACTUALLY make a difference and say and do nothing? Genuinely wondering.

I do think Ed's handling of the situation was cowardly, but I can't help feeling like cancel culture has allowed and exacerbated people's sadistic pleasure in seeing a successful public figure being destroyed. I don't think this is helping anyone in the bigger picture.

Edited Sunday at 10:56 AM by elijahfan

[NeanderthalDavid 857]

I still don’t know a single song from this boy and I’m thankful 

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2 hours ago, onTheBrink said:

And since when is any of Ed Sheeran's music 'unifying'? I don't feel connected to my fellow man listening to Shape Of You?

I mean, you can say the same thing about Gaga’s music, other than what, Come To Mama and Hey Girl?