Gaga needs to show support for Palestine

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People are usually good, but sadly humans are easily manipulated by propaganda and fear, nobody is immune, me and you included. Maybe the printing press (or the Acta Diurna, romans were really ahead ) was meant to stay on the drawing board. And interestingly enough, Nazi Germany was the first country in the world to use mass propaganda and the result was taking almost all of europe, imo it was never the tanks, the tactics or brilliance, it was a war fueled by propaganda. For better or worse, the nazis taught a lot to governments all over the world, 80 years later, propaganda from all sides has gotten so damn good that we spend all our time just pointing fingers instead of uniting. And that's by design. 

and dont mind me, just rambling really 

 

[Controversiaga 17,218]

49 minutes ago, Lemon Blood said:

Yes… she’s just had a baby and has new things to worry about. I don’t blame her for staying quiet rn. Getting political can be very dangerous and keeping her baby safe should be her top priority 

How come it wasn’t dangerous for all the other celebrities who spoke out? They have families too 

[Bambino 24,390]

She should HAVE done that a long time ago. I made this post in another thread.

Especially Gaga, out of ALL those empty celebrities, should've said something from the very beginning (back to when Palestine wasn't a trendy topic to talk about). Even a 'both sides' post would've had a little meaning had she made in 2023 when the genocide began.

She built a very strong public image around equality, freedom and human rights, those values have a special meaning when an ACTUAL group of people such as the Palestinians are suffering from inequality, oppression, occupation and much more. But she chose to ignore it, and there's no excuse to that. And no, a post isn't going to give Palestinians ANYTHING, neither freedom nor a state, but it was her MORAL value to say something and she chose not to. I'm not saying she's a Zionist (yet?) but her silence raises a lot of questions. 

So imo it's either she's ignorant and/or surrounded by evil people who misinform her (though that's not an excuse anymore as access is available to literally everyone), or simply she's a Zionist.

You guys don't get how IMPORTANT it is for celebrities talk about Palestine nowadays. Back in the day, nobody was allowed to even mention the word Palestine. Some even mistook the name for Pakistan.

A few years ago, I made this thread:

And it was locked minutes after it was created, and that tells you how things have changed.

 

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[Bambino 24,390]

1 hour ago, Lemon Blood said:

Yes… she’s just had a baby and has new things to worry about. I don’t blame her for staying quiet rn. Getting political can be very dangerous and keeping her baby safe should be her top priority 

Lmfao so gay rights, BLM, Ukraine, Russia and others are all safe to topics to talk about a line should be drawn when Palestine is the topic because it's "dangerous" and she should stay out of politics?

[timdrake 2,570]

14 hours ago, Natalia Kills said:

I wouldn’t say silence is complacency.

In this circumstance, it really isn’t. There’s such a huge difference between “this celebrity is sharing Zionist, anti-Palestine views” and “this celebrity hasn’t made any public comments about the situation”, and I find it ridiculous and potentially harmful to their cause to paint those groups of people with the same brush. If everyone is the worst, then no one is the worst. 

The cynical voice in my head thinks these people feel good when raging against others online, and they’ve already gone through the vocal zionists, so now they’re going after famous people who haven’t said anything at all… BUT I’m trying to not be cynical!

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43 minutes ago, Controversiaga said:

How come it wasn’t dangerous for all the other celebrities who spoke out? They have families too 

Who are these other celebrities? Do you have examples? I genuinely do not remember seeing or reading anything about celebs of Gaga's caliber making a big statement. Because I'm sure it'd be a huge story and fans of these people would boast about it. Let's not make it seem like every celeb in Hollywood made a statement and shown that they support for Palestine and Gaga an outlier.

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42 minutes ago, Controversiaga said:

How come it wasn’t dangerous for all the other celebrities who spoke out? They have families too 

it is

but remember, gaga has had her concerts threatened in the past, even the recent performance in brazil had a bomb plot planned and even her dogs were kidnapped

now imagine all of that in her mind with a new baby in her life

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[timdrake 2,570]

22 minutes ago, Bambino said:

Lmfao so gay rights, BLM, Ukraine, Russia and others are all safe to topics to talk about a line should be drawn when Palestine is the topic because it's "dangerous" and she should stay out of politics?

What’s the point of forcing her to say something? The government isn’t withholding Palestinian aid unless Lady Gaga opens her mouth.

It really comes across as “I just want to make sure she thinks like me” so that folks feel validated in their choice of pop star. Not everyone is going to make a comment on every single thing

If her lack of speaking about this one awful situation going in the world really bothers you that much, then idk don’t listen to her music, toss out your Haus Labs concealer, I don’t know what else to tell you 

[Bambino 24,390]

3 minutes ago, timdrake said:

What’s the point of forcing her to say something? The government isn’t withholding Palestinian aid unless Lady Gaga opens her mouth.

It really comes across as “I just want to make sure she thinks like me” so that folks feel validated in their choice of pop star. Not everyone is going to make a comment on every single thing

If her lack of speaking about this one awful situation going in the world really bothers you that much, then idk don’t listen to her music, toss out your Haus Labs concealer, I don’t know what else to tell you 

Public figures have enormous platforms, and when they choose to speak about some social or humanitarian issues but remain silent about others, it’s reasonable to question that silence. I’m not saying she’s obligated to agree with me or that she has to comment on every issue in the world. I’m saying that her decision not to say anything about Palestinians is something I’m allowed to find disappointing.

And it’s not about needing a pop star to “think like me.” It’s about what people choose to support with their attention, money, and admiration. You’re free to think her silence is irrelevant; I’m free to think it says something.

Gaga has spent a huge part of her public image standing up for human rights, equality, marginalized people, and humanitarian causes. So when there’s a humanitarian catastrophe affecting Palestinians and she chooses to say nothing, it’s completely fair to question that silence. If she wants to stay out of politics, that’s her choice, but then people are also allowed to question how consistent that is with the values she has publicly championed for years.

It’s about deciding what kind of people and values I want to support. You can listen to her music and not care about her silence. I can care about it and call it out. Those are both choices.

[nATAH 58,066]

28 minutes ago, timdrake said:

In this circumstance, it really isn’t. There’s such a huge difference between “this celebrity is sharing Zionist, anti-Palestine views” and “this celebrity hasn’t made any public comments about the situation”, and I find it ridiculous and potentially harmful to their cause to paint those groups of people with the same brush. If everyone is the worst, then no one is the worst. 

The cynical voice in my head thinks these people feel good when raging against others online, and they’ve already gone through the vocal zionists, so now they’re going after famous people who haven’t said anything at all… BUT I’m trying to not be cynical!

you've completely and perfectly vocalised how i feel about this matter

should she say something? absolutely. is she zionist for staying silent? F*CK no and anyone who's been a fan for more than 5 minutes knows she saw the attacks and felt awful

but she's also super f*cking famous and speaking without thinking can be dangerous for her, her family and circle

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[MOT 3,653]

Does she NEED to show support for Palestine ? No.

SHOULD she show support for Palestine ? No.

She's a professional entertainer, not an elected representative of any type. So NEED and SHOULD ? No. She's under no obligation. None.

 

 

[Petie Estie 5,741]

she is ruining her career at this point, and it's too late I'm afraid. People are getting crazy with the accusations. Doing a show in israel in 2014 before everyone was aware of everything and saying nice things to the audience is zionism now. Girl please just speak up 

[Bambino 24,390]

2 minutes ago, MOT said:

Does she NEED to show support for Palestine ? No.

SHOULD she show support for Palestine ? No.

She's a professional entertainer, not an elected representative of any type. So NEED and SHOULD ? No. She's under no obligation. None.

Unless she's being forced to not say a thing about Palestine, then what you said also applies to ICE, gay rights, and BLM and everything she preached about in the past? Right?

[timdrake 2,570]

3 minutes ago, nATAH said:

but she's also super f*cking famous and speaking without thinking can be dangerous for her, her family and circle

Exactly! A part of her maturing & growing up is not shooting her mouth off as quickly as she used to, and with so many people who rely on her from her businesses, to her family, to the BTW Foundation, she’s just not going to jump into every divisive public situation. That has to be a lot of pressure. Hell, there was a threat at her Rio show. She knows firsthand how crazy people can be. 
 

And like you said, I’ve never once doubted what she’s probably feeling, I feel like as a fan I’ve gotten to know her heart well after 16 years. 

[nATAH 58,066]

10 minutes ago, Petie Estie said:

she is ruining her career at this point, and it's too late I'm afraid. People are getting crazy with the accusations. Doing a show in israel in 2014 before everyone was aware of everything and saying nice things to the audience is zionism now. Girl please just speak up 

the people who are spreading these false rumours and hate tweets weren't buying her music in the first place and are confined to the cess pit that is stan twitter

her career is perfectly fine

the actual GP, her main market, does not give 2 sh*ts about this... they will continue to stream and buy her concert tickets