Gaga needs to show support for Palestine

[Creyk 18,832]

2 hours ago, Head Empty said:

I genuinely don't know what people think her opinion would achieve in this conflict. Yes, she has a big platform, but she's still 'just' a popstar that has no meaningful ties or knowledge regarding this subject. A popstar. If anything it would just be fuel to the fire.

 

She is not limted to just speaking up...her net worth is 400 million, Michael's is 600 million. She could do what other celebrities did over the past days and match Macklemore's donation of 1 million dollars. That would be more than just throwing out some nice words.

[Bronco 27,903]

10 minutes ago, Creyk said:

She is not limted to just speaking up...her net worth is 400 million, Michael's is 600 million. She could do what other celebrities did over the past days and match Macklemore's donation of 1 million dollars. That would be more than just throwing out some nice words.

Also, she just had a world tour. 

And unlike some celebrities who still actively use their platform - she's stopped fundraising at tour dates. 
Sam Fender had MSF & local foodbanks collecting at every show he did last year. 
Taylor Swift (for PR) donated millions to local foodbanks at most tour stops. 

You don't need to stand on stage, wave a flag and give the same "lets pray for peace" speach for 80 shows. But there are practical ways to use wealth and platform. 

[G U C C I 5,625]

Everyone on here and socials arguing about Gaga speaking up is ****ing ridiculous. If you have enough effort, energy, and time to post and complain about what she should or shouldn’t be doing, go scream at someone whose opinions and actions can actually change things because that’s not her. It’s the politicians and leaders of government. 
 

She has been a relentless advocate for social and cultural change in the US regarding LGBT rights, immigration, and racism since day one. Those issues can be affected by speaking up and representing the marginalized. This issue isn’t social. It’s life or death in an unnecessary war and genocide started and propagated by a country who just wants the land for greed and hatred of the people living there. They aren’t even the only ones. Other countries and groups of people are committing the same horrors around the world and the only people who can officially change it is elected officials in the governments involved. 

[Ladle Ghoulash 55,336]

12 hours ago, Forest said:

homophobic people on the other side of the world.

Saying this when gay marriage isn’t even legal in Israel pls 

[YourEvilTwin 1,398]

There's no avoiding this at this point and anyone who thinks the silence won't be noticed is deluding themselves.

That is doubly true for celebrities who otherwise have been known to be politically outspoken. It will be very hard to speak out for anything going forward without people asking what they haven't spoken out for.

Hate to say this but I've already seen her being called a Zionist in spaces that I frequent that used to love her. I've tried to defend her but frankly "she's never spoken in support of Israel" isn't a very effective defense.

[PartySick 174,543]

4 hours ago, Bronco said:

I see we have a new Stylor

It was banned before you even quoted them. Gotta get to 'em quicker than we do 

[Bronco 27,903]

3 minutes ago, PartySick said:

It was banned before you even quoted them. Gotta get to 'em quicker than we do 

Ngl "Gaga cant support Palestine because she has a half jewish baby" was particularly funny. Hall of fame moment for me

[Mister G 10,525]

1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Saying this when gay marriage isn’t even legal in Israel pls 

They love pinkwashing on this issue alone like be for real that damn place is not friendly to same-sex couples in all facets. Like they'll claim the entire country is welcoming when in reality, Tel Aviv is just one city that doesn't count.

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[PartySick 174,543]

1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Saying this when gay marriage isn’t even legal in Israel pls 

 

4 minutes ago, Mister G said:

They love pinkwashing on this issue alone like be for real that damn place is not friendly to same-sex couples in all facets. Like they'll claim the entire country is welcoming when in reality, Tel Aviv is just one city that doesn't count.

It's also like...say every Palestinian is a raging bigot and hates all things queer.

That means we should just look the other way when tens of thousands of kids and innocent people are killed, tortured, and millions are displaced?  

[Mister G 10,525]

Just now, PartySick said:

 

It's also like...say every Palestinian is a raging bigot and hates all things queer.

That means we should just look the other way when tens of thousands of kids and innocent people are killed, tortured, and millions are displaced?  

Oh 100% agree with you. 

[TheWineMonster 36]

It must be unbearable to be famous and have to take a stand on everything. Come on, we all know where Gaga stands. There are far better ways to help with the issue than just tossing out a cheap soundbite during a concert. Everything is political, but a lot of what I see is artists just saying a line during a show—how does that actually help? It doesn't; it only helps with audience relatability and their public image.

[Ilia Malinin 3,109]

15 hours ago, Forest said:

Also, have you guys ever considered the possibility of Gaga actually being pro-Israel?

Gaga grew up on the Upper West Side, which is the most Jewish neighborhood in Manhattan along with the Upper East Side, with a lot of Israeli friends, listening to Israeli music and going to Israeli restaurants.

I’m sure she’s sad about the situation in Gaza,  but I do believe she has a positive view of Israel.

 

[Lemon Blood 671]

16 hours ago, Controversiaga said:

do you think there is any excuse for Gaga’s silence?

Yes… she’s just had a baby and has new things to worry about. I don’t blame her for staying quiet rn. Getting political can be very dangerous and keeping her baby safe should be her top priority 

[JustTea 6,980]

15 hours ago, gagzus said:

If this is about the Lightspeed thing it’s already been proven it’s an American company that has a division in Israel, something being in Israel doesn’t mean it’s funded by the IDF nor the government—which is where the problems are.

And until she says anything negative about Palestinians, is directly funded by the IDF or the Israeli government—I’m personally not going to judge her.

We should be pressuring government officials and world leaders the way some people on here pressure celebrities whose opinions are entirely inconsequential—Gaga’a included. Moral police the literal leaders not the cattle.

Exactly, the whole thing has turned into a witch hunt where every little detail is turned against her and everything else is ignored. And that whole thing is now spread everywhere by Gaga haters and enchanced with AI stuff... Combine that with the amount of people that lack critical thinking and believe everything they see/read online. 

[bxr 2,950]

Just a one-off point of note given some of the considerations in the thread … regarding the “Gaga just had a baby, she‘s a mom now; making political statements can endanger her and her child‘s safety …” plane of perspective: there is the position that, now, as a mother with a young child, she is that much more connected to the women (and men) whose children didn‘t choose to be collateral damage in a genocide that was thrust upon them for political gain from institutional powers beyond their control, whose victories are beyond the general population‘s benefit, and whose institutional power is apparently impervious to the very real human damage their actions inflict …

TL;DR: “Now that Gaga is a mother with her child‘s safety to worry about,” creates a stronger practical platform for Gaga support to mothers and children who are in the crosshairs of this very genocide

Similar to the “She‘s a celebrity, she shouldn‘t be expected to make a statement;” when public figures are quite literally individuals whose profession is predicated upon capturing the attention of a widespread audience for the sake of communication 

 

Again, as always though, I’m new and novice here and just gleaning and learning as we go along so this is just commentary on the blink given proximal considerations

 

ETA: Just, brief post-script memo; admittedly, the general population (mothers, fathers, children) caught in the genocidal crosshairs as collateral damage, likely do not have venture capital investor networks to consider when deliberating professional courses of action to take in protecting their family‘s personal safety (ex. the consequences of divesting from associates with conflict-related business interests, perhaps funding their corporate endeavors with their own wealth, making a statement that might jeopardize public-facing investor associations on ethical grounds, etc.) … so, to be fair, there is also that margin of distinction

Edited 1 hour ago by bxr