RochesterJoannster 4,103 Posted Saturday at 04:43 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:43 PM (edited) The Fame Monster by a million miles The Fame has too many of those interchangeable album tracks with the thin production that no longer represent what Gaga has become. The Fame Monster, on the other hand, feels like it could be her bible still today. Edited Saturday at 04:46 PM by RochesterJoannster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 2,389 Posted Saturday at 04:57 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:57 PM 4 hours ago, Nessun Dorma said: I was actually going to suggest the same album! My 12-year-old self was obsessed with it. Another recommendation that comes to mind is Spiceworld. As for Gaga, I reiterate the recommendations of The Fame, I think it’s the most palatable option for a young teenager. That‘s wilde … I got my little sister the Spice 25th Anniversary Zoetrope vinyl for Christmas back in 2021! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessun Dorma 10,174 Posted Saturday at 06:11 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:11 PM 1 hour ago, bxr said: That‘s wilde … I got my little sister the Spice 25th Anniversary Zoetrope vinyl for Christmas back in 2021! What an awesome gift! I still prefer Spiceworld to their debut though, there are more songs I like (and I think nostalgia makes me like them even more!): Saturday Night Divas, Never Give Up On The Good Times, Too Much, Stop, Viva Forever Spoiler Memory unlocked: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagacabana 7,765 Posted Saturday at 06:16 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:16 PM 4 minutes ago, Nessun Dorma said: Memory unlocked: What is this omg I'm fascinated I don't believe in the glorification of murder, I do believe in the empowerment of women 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessun Dorma 10,174 Posted Saturday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:20 PM 1 minute ago, gagacabana said: What is this omg I'm fascinated Viva Forever MV 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 2,389 Posted Saturday at 06:25 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:25 PM 8 minutes ago, Nessun Dorma said: What an awesome gift! I still prefer Spiceworld to their debut though, there are more songs I like (and I think nostalgia makes me like them even more!): Saturday Night Divas, Never Give Up On The Good Times, Too Much, Stop, Viva Forever Reveal hidden contents Memory unlocked: Bops, on bops, on BOPS! Also, Denying really takes you to the cerebral self-awareness place And … Spice Up Your Life … is canon level imperial pop … also, the video is like Pop Industrial Complex 101 (When global dystopia met the danceteria)—education is the motivation! Spoiler 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessun Dorma 10,174 Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM 25 minutes ago, bxr said: Bops, on bops, on BOPS! Also, Denying really takes you to the cerebral self-awareness place And … Spice Up Your Life … is canon level imperial pop … also, the video is like Pop Industrial Complex 101 (When global dystopia met the danceteria)—education is the motivation! Hide contents Hai si ja! Hold tight! I used to turn on MTV to watch this MV 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagacabana 7,765 Posted Saturday at 08:22 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:22 PM 2 hours ago, Nessun Dorma said: Viva Forever MV I can't believe my dad gatekeeped this from me all these years I don't believe in the glorification of murder, I do believe in the empowerment of women 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegahedron 369 Posted yesterday at 05:46 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 05:46 AM Thanks guys. Really interesting to hear your ideas. Tbh I am quite surprised I didn't see Born This Way get mentioned - since that is probably where my mind is mainly going to. I guess my feeling is it captures the Gaga sound very well, and lyrically it probably has quite a lot to say to a young woman trying to find herself. Also no swearing, so I won't get in trouble with my sister hah! The others were Mayhem (maybe recency bias?) or The Fame Monster (some of her biggest singles). The Fame has a certain logic to it but I wouldn't want to present it to her as "this is her apex". Joanne honestly never came into my mind, nor ARTPOP really. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagacabana 7,765 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 7 hours ago, Omegahedron said: Tbh I am quite surprised I didn't see Born This Way get mentioned - since that is probably where my mind is mainly going to. I guess my feeling is it captures the Gaga sound very well, and lyrically it probably has quite a lot to say to a young woman trying to find herself. Also no swearing, so I won't get in trouble with my sister hah! You should pick BTW in my opinion. That's my sister's second favorite album because of all the songs she loves (Scheiße, Bloody Mary, Born This Way, Judas, Marry The Night, Yoü and I, The Edge Of Glory). Those are so so so unique they resonate on a deeper level... and also some of the music I was obsessed about when I was 12, if that's anything to go by I don't believe in the glorification of murder, I do believe in the empowerment of women 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 26,249 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 8 hours ago, Omegahedron said: Also no swearing, so I won't get in trouble with my sister hah! Government Hooker is on that album though 😂 The gays know how to party 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 2,389 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, Bronco said: Government Hooker is on that album though 😂 I was thinking that too, but then in immediate retrospect I noticed how clever BTW is in that way (and GH in particular) … it‘s reminded me of watching The Bodyguard when I was younger … I enjoyed the movie so much, and it a was paradigmatic cultural moment that felt shared on the larger plane while also being a personal point of affiliation or association, but every time I watched it as I got older I noticed how much of the everything went over my head because of how it was narrated or presented … even now, I‘m like, I literally missed 70% of the plot … but so with GH, to the OP‘s point, there is no swearing (I think? Or maybe I’m used to the clean versions ) … and much of what we consider vulgar about the song is because of our cultural experience and context in our age or sort of socialization … that, and, GH is a proverbial drop in the bucket of the entirety of an album that is maximalist in its scope of identity-revelation/reconciliation … but this is all salt grain musing into the airwaves, and may not make a highway unicorn hair of sensible relevance … The top line areas of lyrical trepidation might be … I feel like there‘s a PG-13 line in Electric Chapel … maybe Heavy Metal Lover, but that also feels GH-adjacent nod-wink culture coded … Marry the Night, my little sister and I would jokingly dub (“Won‘t poke holes in the seat with my heels, because that‘s where we make huuugs”) … But, again, this is all rambling and riffing on the blink … alas, Bronco, you always make the lil monster noggin think Edited 20 hours ago by bxr 1 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 54,340 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 14 minutes ago, bxr said: nod-wink Not sure how nod-wink a song that opens with “I want your whiskey mouth all over my blonde south” is, tbf hahah. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 26,249 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 14 minutes ago, bxr said: I was thinking that too, but then in immediate retrospect I noticed how clever BTW is in that way (and GH in particular) … it‘s reminded me of watching The Bodyguard when I was younger … I enjoyed the movie so much, and it a was paradigmatic cultural moment that felt shared on the larger plane while also being a personal point of affiliation or association, but every time I watched it as I got older I noticed how much of the everything went over my head because of how it was narrated or presented … even now, I‘m like, I literally missed 70% of the plot … but so with GH, to the OP‘s point, there is no swearing (I think? Or maybe I’m used to the clean versions ) … and much of what we consider vulgar about the song is because of our cultural experience and context in our age or sort of socialization … that, and, GH is a proverbial drop in the bucket of the entirety of an album that is maximalist in its scope of identity-revelation/reconciliation … but this is all salt grain musing into the airwaves, and may not make a highway unicorn hair of sensible relevance … The top line areas of lyrical trepidation might be … I feel like there‘s a PG-13 line in Electric Chapel … maybe Heavy Metal Lover, but that also feels GH-adjacent nod-wink culture coded … Marry the Night, my little sister and I would jokingly dub (“Won‘t poke holes in the seat with my heels, because that‘s where we make huuugs”) … But, again, this is all rambling and riffing on the blink … alas, Bronco, you always make the lil monster noggin think All of this is valid and well put, and not the direction of thought I was going. I looked at it from a stance where if the mum would be mad at swearing in songs, I feel like a song like Government Hooker would meet the same objections because while it's not explicit and does dance around things rather than just screaming "**** me" it's still on the same level of "inappropriateness" as a 12 year old saying ****/****/piss etc The gays know how to party 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 26,249 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Not sure how nod-wink a song that opens with “I want your whiskey mouth all over my blonde south” is, tbf hahah. It's a headbutt-wink lol Like most teens and up will understand it, but actual kids won't (I ****ing hope) The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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