NUTELLA 32,512 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Gang Bang? Sister⦠1:59 - 2:14 of it, yes THAT's the kind of music that beckons me to a dancefloor. You're immune to it? While I'm at it, I'll make another bold (but truthful) statement: Living For Love could have fit on C2 & it would have been the best song on the record 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,407 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 6 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: 1:59 - 2:14 of it, yes THAT's the kind of music that beckons me to a dancefloor. You're immune to it? While I'm at it, I'll make another bold (but truthful) statement: Living For Love could have fit on C2 & it would have been the best song on the record Living for Love is pretty good, the wet fart house drop on the final version is a huge letdown, imo. I like Gang Bang, but we canβt be out here acting like it doesnβt sound like a Jeffree Star b-sideΒ We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 29,936 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 13 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: I maintain that it also sounds somewhat stale / like a forgotten Ava Max song. I truly believe AM could have put this song out (with her superior vocals) & it would have made no noise at all. We're only talking about it rn because it's a Madonna song. I genuinely can't believe you think Ava Max is capable of a Garrix production.Β Β 14 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: that 1:59 - 2:14Β of Gang Bang ... This is literally one of the most boring parts of Gang Bang.Β It's just a simple loop beat being used to transition into verse 6.Β If we want to talk about the impressive parts of Gang Bang its 3:18-3:55 breakdown and transition into the final chorus before the bridge/outro (which is impressive in its own right, but 90% of it's ability to build up energy is due to vocals, the instrumental doesn't actually build up itself).Β Like I will happily argue that 0:32-0:40 in Bizarre is better than the section of Gang Bang you use and it's doing the same transitionary job - but it actually builds into a pay off.Β Β You also get a better EDM section at 0:30-0:52 in Everything and 3:27-3:42 in Love Without Words.Β Β 26 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: I agree with you here. As far as I'm concerned, it is the song most fitting for a dancefloor. I'm surprised Love Sensation wasn't the lead single & Bizarre wasn't the follow-up. I personally would have done:Β I Feel So Free (Promo a week before the lead), Good for the Soul (April), Danceteria (End of May for Pride month), Bizarre (week before the album released & pushed like hell over the summer party circuits).Β Β The gays know how to party Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 32,512 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: I like Gang Bang, but we canβt be out here acting like it doesnβt sound like a Jeffree Star b-sideΒ I'm only talking about 1:59 - 2:14Β BUT I will also say that, cheesy as it may be, the entirety of Gang Bang is a more interesting listening experience than most of C2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 29,936 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 13 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: Living For Love could have fit on C2 & it would have been the best song on the record I mean, i'm certain Stuart Price would do a significantly better job on Living for Love than D*plo & Rechtshaid did.Β Like I hate Diplo's work, but he can do significantly better. But tbf Demo & Nick Rowe ****ed the mixing as well.Β The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 32,512 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, Bronco said: This is literally one of the most boring parts of Gang Bang.Β It's just a simple loop beat Feeling very seen lol 2 minutes ago, Bronco said: You also get a better EDM section at 0:30-0:52 in Everything I'm torn on Everything (a song which should have been called Crystallized, but I digress). It is full of superfluous, messy, awkward moments.... BUT... it may have my favorite moment of the entire album: the dramatic finale of the song, when the bulk of the production suddenly drops away, leaving just the piano, the strings & her voice... Wherever there is the greatest amount of darkness that's where you'll find the greatest light π€ Β so come outside into the lightΒ Β π€ I literally made a loop of just those 15 seconds, because it gives me such chills Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 32,512 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, Bronco said: I mean, i'm certain Stuart Price would do a significantly better job on Living for Love than D*plo & Rechtshaid did.Β Like I hate Diplo's work, but he can do significantly better. But tbf Demo & Nick Rowe ****ed the mixing as well.Β The second half of LFL... that female background singer vocalizing... tell me she doesn't thrill you..... go on, Bronco, break my heart... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 29,936 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Just now, NUTELLA said: The second half of LFL... that female background singer vocalizing... tell me she doesn't thrill you..... go on, Bronco, break my heart... The vocals throughout the song are great.Β It's the instrumental I take issue with. I genuinely believe the accusations against Diplo based on how badly he treats house music.Β The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,407 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 24 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: I'm only talking about 1:59 - 2:14Β BUT I will also say that, cheesy as it may be, the entirety of Gang Bang is a more interesting listening experience than most of C2 Surely not, I fearΒ We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaism 12,498 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 On 7/16/2026 at 8:43 AM, nkta said: I was not comparing tour or music videosβ¦ Also, CII has a very strong message - and more profound to me than the one from COADF Β On 7/16/2026 at 9:08 AM, Ziggy said: How can you compare a single album to a tour, videos, era, etc.? COADF was dropped when we got full pop eras thatβs just not the case anymore. I think the CII film clears a lot of COADF or at least stacks up to it. as for messageβ¦what is the message of confessions I compared to II? One of the albumβs biggest critiques is its lack of heartfelt confessions which is what makes II stronger in that regard imo. COADF is a great and safe dance pop album loaded with hits but itβs also a compilation of songs sheβd been working on in different places so she could fulfill her Warners contract. Gotta be honest here, CII has way more to say KΒ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,473 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 3 minutes ago, Gagaism said: Β KΒ Girl what? Lol you responded in a forum Iβm confusion lol I even said elsewhere that COADF is a great but very different album. I ainβt reading you but thereβs not a message to that album which is fine but letβs not claim thereβs meaning where it doesnβt lie. Itβs a solid, fun dance album packed with undeniable hits. CII is more a biopic/album about coming to terms with various parts of her life. Couldnβt be more different albums 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbage day 11,889 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) On 7/17/2026 at 8:14 AM, Ladle Ghoulash said: How am I discounting what sheβs done in the past by saying that CII is experimentalΒ in the grand scheme of contemporary pop music. I didnβt say it was more experimental than her previous work. Because it's not the slightest bit experimental, even for her. I don't understand the throbber you popheads have with claiming the slightest bit of influence on a song quantifies it as EXPERIMENTAL. This album is much less than experimental even for early Madonna albums. She's done so much more before. Edited July 21 by garbage day Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,407 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 On 7/17/2026 at 8:14 AM, Ladle Ghoulash said: experimentalΒ in the grand scheme of contemporary pop music. Β 11 minutes ago, garbage day said: Because it's not the slightest bit experimental, even for her. I don't understand the throbber you popheads have with claiming the slightest bit of influence on a song quantifies it as EXPERIMENTAL. This album is much less than experimental even for early Madonna albums. She's done so much more before. You seem to prefer tirades, but please read my comments before replying or donβt bother. Not the first time youβve talked at me after failing to closely read something I wrote.Β We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,407 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 On 7/17/2026 at 8:36 AM, NUTELLA said: The second half of LFL... that female background singer vocalizing... tell me she doesn't thrill you..... go on, Bronco, break my heart... Meh We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 32,512 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 11 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Meh Thou art cruising for a bruising! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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