The Anti-Gaga Backlash Around Confessions II

[Flippy 14,235]

3 hours ago, Bronco said:

Yo @Flippy you might wanna grab the popcorn

Bet, I made it on time!

Edited 6 hours ago by Flippy

[Ayesha Erotica 1,912]

14 hours ago, rinasawachanta said:

 I’m concerned about the power of narratives when it comes to marketing-driven cultural consumption: the way something can be constructed as unambiguously good, positive, or successful, just as the exact opposite narrative can be spun about another phenomenon or product.

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Hi everyone,

I’m here to talk about something that’s been bothering me since the release of Confessions II, and I think this is a good place to share it with my fellow monsters. I listened to the album and thought it was really good—I truly enjoyed it—but my enjoyment started to be overshadowed by the fact that, as the album began to receive positive reviews, a narrative against Gaga began to unfold, driven primarily by Madonna fans and even some monsters (or, at least, I sense a serious lack of enthusiasm when it comes to defending her). Specifically, there have been systematic attacks on Chromatica: a well-established—and largely unfounded—narrative that it’s a “bad” album, something repeated ad nauseam, to the point where I think it ends up making some monsters question their genuine appreciation for the album. At the same time, it’s very harsh—and even concerning—how Madonna’s fans can’t seem to enjoy the album’s relative success without dragging Gaga into it. It’s sickening; they’re out of their minds. It’s as if they’d been hiding under a rock for practically twenty years, lying in wait for Madonna to have anything resembling a hit so they could jump in to “cash in” on years of bitterness and resentment toward Gaga. It really strikes me because I don’t recall this being the situation—not even remotely close—when Mayhem came out.

Sorry for the long post, but I’m really wondering how other monsters are experiencing this, because I don’t see anyone else speaking out about it. It seems more like a series of one-sided attacks, coming even from unexpected people (the straw that broke the camel’s back for me was seeing some older men talking about gay/pop culture in my country, who—in their video reaction to Confessions II—literally broke their long-standing silence—which had been conspicuous but respectful—regarding Gaga with negative comments about her). I’m concerned about the power of narratives when it comes to marketing-driven cultural consumption: the way something can be constructed as unambiguously good, positive, or successful, just as the exact opposite narrative can be spun about another phenomenon or product.

I'd like to hear your opinions—always respectfully.

 

The opening post has been entirely written by artificial intelligence.

Seems like a low effort try to stir chaos and create a dispute among Gaga and Madonna fanbase with the help of AI.

I am only replying to post written by humans, not by AI.

Evidence:

", a narrative against Gaga began to unfold, driven primarily by Madonna fans"

"Specifically, there have been systematic attacks on Chromatica: a well-established—and largely unfounded—narrative"

"something repeated ad nauseam,"

" I’m concerned about the power of narratives when it comes to marketing-driven cultural consumption: the way something can be constructed as unambiguously good, positive, or successful, just as the exact opposite narrative can be spun about another phenomenon or product."

"Sorry for the long post"

You didn't even write it yourself. Why don't you write it yourself?

The whole opening post has a scientific essay-like structure, the many ChatGDP hyphens, the elaborate choice of words, the academic evaluation, the predictable sequence of structure in typical ChatGDP-style.

There is another user on this forum  @StrawberryBlond who writes in an elaborate style, but she writes her posts by herself. Comparing her post to yours, you fulfill all criteria made by ChatGDP, while StrawberryBlonde's post feels written by a human. Your post feels machine like, mechanic, while SB's posts are individual.

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Ayesha Erotica

[River 127,010]

22 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

safety in numbers…

[River 127,010]

11 minutes ago, Ayesha Erotica said:

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the infamous AI hyphen

[River 127,010]

14 minutes ago, Flippy said:

Bet, I made it in time!

go outside and catch 500 madonnamon bitch 

[Roboboy 3,872]

to be brutally honest i think you're spending a bit too much time on certain twitter circles, these narratives don't really have any weight and have no impact on real life or most people. I've made this mistake before so I'm not punching down but it's just the chaos of the phone 

[Gabe 2,582]

 

12 minutes ago, Roboboy said:

to be brutally honest i think you're spending a bit too much time on certain twitter circles, these narratives don't really have any weight and have no impact on real life or most people. I've made this mistake before so I'm not punching down but it's just the chaos of the phone 

Well said, I was about to comment the same. No one IRL thinks like the narrative twitter circles about Gaga/Madonna. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Gabe

[Flippy 14,235]

21 minutes ago, River said:

go outside and catch 500 madonnamon bitch 

How about you do that?

[Evan Peters 10,775]

madonna's online fans have, and always will, compare her and gaga because that's the only way they can get viral tweets (which is the goal of most of them because they're trolls more than they are madonna fans lmao). any person who's a fan of one artist but spends their time using their artist's success to bash another doesn't care much about either artist to begin with. 

gaga is very much a punching bag in the stan communities so im not sure WHY everyone is acting like that isn't the case, but i will say it'd be beneficial to just block anybody saying stupid ****. the amount of times i go into the replies on a tweet and block every person trying to start drama is far too often, especially on tweets surrounding gaga. it's mostly trolls wanting to start 'wars' and they shouldn't be taken too seriously. 

i have no comment on the supposed chromatica vs confessions ii debate because a) they don't even seem to be sonically similar, and b) i have yet to hear a madonna song post music that sounds good and therefore i have no interest in listening to her recent releases to compare them.

you are very much correct on the observation that any conversation regarding gaga being compared to another artist always turns into people, including her own fans (specially on this site), punching down on her artistry, and it's funny seeing the usual suspects of that behavior denying it LMAOOO

[Bronco 24,190]

26 minutes ago, Evan Peters said:

gaga is very much a punching bag in the stan communities so im not sure WHY everyone is acting like that isn't the case

I mean people aren't saying stan wars don't exist or that other stans dislike Gaga. 

We're saying Confessions 2 & bitter Madonna fans aren't the reason why Chromatica hate exists. 

This site is the reason Chromatica hate exists.

[River 127,010]

31 minutes ago, Flippy said:

How about you do that?

I did the pikistip one 

Tuve tu veneno
Tuve tu amor y también tu fuego
Tuve tu veneno
Tuve tu vida y ya no la quiero

[River 127,010]

4 minutes ago, Bronco said:

I mean people aren't saying stan wars don't exist or that other stans dislike Gaga. 

We're saying Confessions 2 & bitter Madonna fans aren't the reason why Chromatica hate exists. 

This site is the reason Chromatica hate exists.

Bloodpop is the reason chronomatica hate exists tbh

[Lucas 30,982]

Who the damn cares about evil fans who celebrate a new album by trashtalking a 10 years old one. Toxic stans would be left to rot in their corner, they live for attention online.

[tylerjs 6,092]

it’s bc you’re on that damn phone

 

lol just log off for a while girl it’s ok

[JazzGa 14,649]

59 minutes ago, Gabe said:

 

Well said, I was about to comment the same. No one IRL thinks like the narrative twitter circles about Gaga/Madonna. 

Thankfully the OP is a strawman argument.... No one online thinks this either, it's entirely an AI hallucination meant to get a hit thread lmao. What a relief!

Edited 5 hours ago by JazzGa