27monster27 15,930 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 7 hours ago, Defmix100 said: The only other thing I've heard that kind of relates to that is Rob Fusari said the label told Gaga to make a song about Paparazzi. So maybe the label came up with the fame theme and had certain aspects they wanted, which kind of makes sense to me since her music before this seemed quite different. I guess we'll never know how much was directed by the label, but it doesn't sound like a manufactured situation where she had writing camps and was only brought in to sing etc What label are we talking about here? Lady Gaga wrote Paparazzi at least half a year before she signed with Interscope. he/him/his 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 7,109 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 8 minutes ago, 27monster27 said: What label are we talking about here? Lady Gaga wrote Paparazzi at least half a year before she signed with Interscope. Not sure it was during a full talk he did about Paparazzi and diving into the project files for an audience Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 15,930 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 With the conversation shifting slightly towards creative control, one thing I want to add in this is how abusive managers and other directors can be. Back in April/May 2022, I tried to suggest to a music industry professor that artists like Ava Max and Normani were getting their creativity limited by their labels (such as their album delays) which is why their careers have fallen. I proceeded to get shouted down, interrupted, and told that they were bitter because they were "ungrateful" for the opportunities they were given. And it isn't just me. Let's not forget that one industry professor who came after Chappel Roan because of her statement about artists deserving better pay. I think the reason why Lady Gaga had such a hard time with the like of Laurianne, Richy, Troy, etc. is because they were probably verbally abusive to her for wanting her way. It's not even just Lady Gaga either. When JoJo cries in her interviews about how her labels weren't letting her release music, it's definitely more than just "they told me no". It was obviously because she was facing vitriol and abuse that she is probably legally not allowed to talk about. There is a reason why some of the people (especially women) with the most creative control are known to be the shadiest (Madonna, Xtina, etc.). That is unfortunately how you have to be. This actually makes Lady Gaga an outlier, because she managed to still be a nice person while fighting tooth and nail behind the scenes with likely abusive label workers to get what she wanted. he/him/his 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars 2,664 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) I feel like shes a bullshitter. Her and the guys wanted more control and Gaga wanted to keep doing things her way and retain creative control, and thank god she did. Even though we had the depressed, messiness of ARTPOP as a result, look where we are now. Edited June 25 by Mars 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 1,235 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 she just talked a whole bunch of nothing for almost 2 minutes straight. remarkable 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 26,292 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 14 hours ago, Reject False Icons said: I’m sorry but no other coreographer did that, there’s no iconic dance that the GP remembers in mayhem or ever since BTW I'm sorry. But we reached the point where pups were taking time out of Darklands in 2025 to film thirst trap tiktoks of them doing the Abracadabra choreo infront of the cranes. We had viral videos of Bobs Burgers characters doing the choreo. Abra definitely crossed over in a way no Gaga choreo has done since the BTW era. The gays know how to party 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 23,610 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 33 minutes ago, Bronco said: I'm sorry. But we reached the point where pups were taking time out of Darklands in 2025 to film thirst trap tiktoks of them doing the Abracadabra choreo infront of the cranes. We had viral videos of Bobs Burgers characters doing the choreo. Abra definitely crossed over in a way no Gaga choreo has done since the BTW era. I also think arguably the only dance move she has than anyone remembers is this anyway And I bet my life savings this was Gaga's suggestion/addition to the choreo since she had been doing this type of movement on tour for months before during songs. Abra is probably the only dance she’s had that has went “viral” since this one movement that even now when people say Gaga or imitate her they do the stutter vocals from BR and do the claws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagacabana 7,787 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 20 hours ago, MountainMonster said: That GIF is a hate crime. Just like your pfp I don't believe in the glorification of murder, I do believe in the empowerment of women 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,141 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 On 6/24/2026 at 3:58 PM, Ashley said: She didn’t say anything particularly bad but kinda said a whole lot of nothing? She was mostly talking around the point bc specifics could get her slapped with a suit but she’s basically saying the men around gaga didn’t like how close she and her were so they planted bad seeds Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,141 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I agree with her about fans not leading the creative. Tea. but what does she mean she left at Joanne? mama you didn’t even finish out BTW. I’m confused there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainMonster 2,776 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, gagacabana said: Just like your pfp the audacity She’s beautiful even if she were morbidly obese, just like me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reject False Icons 4,958 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 On 6/25/2026 at 1:54 PM, Bronco said: We had viral videos of Bobs Burgers characters doing the choreo. Abra definitely crossed over in a way no Gaga choreo has done since the BTW era. I was going to throw a tantrum at you but you mentioned Bob and you got me there I LOVE those series I can’t say anything wish it was bigger in my country so I had people to discuss it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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