Just watched Joker 2, I'm reviewing this sh-t lol

[MadArchitect 1,427]

20 hours ago, River said:

But my remark was about gaga herself as an actress and not the scene as a whole, I feel like she "needs" to do sex scenes to prove that she's a good actress, like she daring and not afraid of sex and nudity.. and I felt that in Joker and Gucci, in both cases, it was more degrading than actually empowering her as an actress.

girl what are u even talking about, there was no nudity at all in either scene, she was fully clothed in both, it was just simulated sex, you are talking as if she's doing some euphoria ass sexualized and exploitative sex scenes, she's never done that kind of ****, and these two movies are her most tame in that regard actually... She doesn't "need" anything, she's just been playing a lover in these movies, sex is a natural thing that occurs between lovers, there's also not anything remotely degrading about these sex scenes, it's just that they've depicted the mundanity and raw nature of sex, that's why makes ppl so uncomfortable, this is not the way they are used to see sex depicted on screen, it is not meant to be sexy or sensual, there is no sexualization in the voyeuristic manner is so often portrayed, you're just sort of there while they are going at it.

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duplicated, sorry, couldn't delete

Edited May 17 by MadArchitect

[Joshie S 6,556]

I'm sorry for your loss. The film is fantastic and will be discussed in 10 years from now as being so misunderstood. Bookmark me 

[StrawberryBlond 15,564]

21 hours ago, Defmix100 said:

Now that you mention it I'm not sure if it was supposed to be in his head, that makes more sense although in the first movie his ficticious scenario's had him quite confident.

I've only seen it once so it's easy to forgot all the little details but this one just came back to me. Don't know if it was officially confirmed or if it was my assumption. Considering he did this in the first film, it seems highly plausible. Like you said, he was more confident in the first one but I suppose with the mood swings due to his troubled state, his fantasies could ebb and flow. That teaser screenshot Todd put out into the world about a year before release where she was holding his face after he'd kissed her was definitely taken from this scene, but clearly, that part didn't make the final cut. Maybe it was originally intended to have him more in control but then it was decided that it was better to make him nervous?

I found the scene and watched it back and sure enough, Harley says that a guard let her in which would never happen (I know guards can be corrupt but no guard of any persuasion will let a visitor enter solitary) and considering that she claimed she was being let out because he was a bad influence on her, there's no way that an ex-inmate would be allowed to casually visit another inmate being held in solitary and certainly not left unattended. It's all so nonsensical that maybe I personally concluded that he dreamt it all up. She did wake him out of a dreamlike state, after all. And oh, the sex scene was a lot more awkward than I remembered. I still stand by that it was realistic for a deeply disturbed man's first time but yeah, Gaga was a bit awkward if anything and I doubt she got much direction here other than to be a bit disconnected and not be as into it as he is. 

[Defmix100 7,048]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I've only seen it once so it's easy to forgot all the little details but this one just came back to me. Don't know if it was officially confirmed or if it was my assumption. Considering he did this in the first film, it seems highly plausible. Like you said, he was more confident in the first one but I suppose with the mood swings due to his troubled state, his fantasies could ebb and flow. That teaser screenshot Todd put out into the world about a year before release where she was holding his face after he'd kissed her was definitely taken from this scene, but clearly, that part didn't make the final cut. Maybe it was originally intended to have him more in control but then it was decided that it was better to make him nervous?

I found the scene and watched it back and sure enough, Harley says that a guard let her in which would never happen (I know guards can be corrupt but no guard of any persuasion will let a visitor enter solitary) and considering that she claimed she was being let out because he was a bad influence on her, there's no way that an ex-inmate would be allowed to casually visit another inmate being held in solitary and certainly not left unattended. It's all so nonsensical that maybe I personally concluded that he dreamt it all up. She did wake him out of a dreamlike state, after all. And oh, the sex scene was a lot more awkward than I remembered. I still stand by that it was realistic for a deeply disturbed man's first time but yeah, Gaga was a bit awkward if anything and I doubt she got much direction here other than to be a bit disconnected and not be as into it as he is. 

Oh yeah I forgot about that teaser photo, I will watch the movie again at some point (there were a few scenes I really did enjoy) so I'll see how clear or not things are about what's real/fictional but it definitely still feels like it goes against the vision he has of himself. I just remember I was next to my dad and hoping the sex scene would be over quick which it was but HOG was less awkward

[onTheBrink 1,229]

I haven't even bothered watching it to this day  

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,612]

6 minutes ago, onTheBrink said:

I haven't even bothered watching it to this day  

Its a pretty good film if you dont have lames in your ear telling you how trash it is ✨

And a flawed masterpiece when you put it in the context of how it was written after the incel right wing ran with the first one. Very punk of Todd Phillips

Edited May 17 by Roughhouse Dandy

[onTheBrink 1,229]

1 minute ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

Its a pretty good film if you dont have lames in your ear telling you how trash it is ✨️

The soundtrack was tea I'll give her that

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,612]

Just now, onTheBrink said:

The soundtrack was tea I'll give her that

Soundtrack tea, performances tea, editing clunky, plotline teaaaaaaaaaa b*tch

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On 5/16/2026 at 10:20 AM, dynamite said:

I still need to see Pocahontas 

wait you've never seen Pocahontas?

[StrawberryBlond 15,564]

On 5/17/2026 at 10:17 PM, Defmix100 said:

Oh yeah I forgot about that teaser photo, I will watch the movie again at some point (there were a few scenes I really did enjoy) so I'll see how clear or not things are about what's real/fictional but it definitely still feels like it goes against the vision he has of himself. I just remember I was next to my dad and hoping the sex scene would be over quick which it was but HOG was less awkward

Haha, I was with my dad when I saw the movie too! But it really was perfectly fine, it's not like there was nudity. But I saw HoG on the big screen, sitting between my parents! I don't know how you can say that one was less awkward! 

[River 127,379]

why this post is still active?