River 124,318 Posted Friday at 06:49 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:49 AM LM: Gaga show some love to the gays, release a gay song!! Gaga: here's Runway ft. Doucheii so you can douche and bop at the same time LM: but Gaga we don't like the song, it's too gay for the gays Gaga: So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 3 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 64,117 Posted Friday at 06:53 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:53 AM BAN THEM! READ MY...BODY LANGUAGE! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 30,398 Posted Friday at 07:20 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:20 AM Cause we’re not robots like Taylor or BTS fans 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAGA IS GROOVY 566 Posted Friday at 07:21 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:21 AM I think the problem with RUNWAY is that it feels a bit like it's trying to pander to the gays a little too heavily.... I know the line between camp and pandering is getting blurrier these days, as gay culture is becoming more and more mainstream, but the line is still there. Gaga's music has always leaned into a certain degree of camp, and she's been embraced by the gays because of it. Born This Way rode that line well - I know when it was released, some older queens called it out for being the first gay anthem written specifically TO BE a gay anthem and disliked it because of that, but I'd argue BTW isn't pandering. There's a clearly sincere message at its heart, something that Gaga had been building towards through her activism before the song's release. I'd also say songs like Donatella or Government Hooker are pure camp, and the gays rightfully turn up for those too. But RUNWAY starts to edge towards pandering territory - the lyric about 'tea', the use of 'biiiiiiiitch', the allusions to ballroom culture etc. etc. Gays can sniff out something that feels a bit forced so I can see why some aren't vibing with it for that reason... the constant comments about it sounding like a Drag Race song are kind of shady... to use some gay lingo hehe. Sorry for my lengthy post, but you really got me thinking! 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 26,327 Posted Friday at 07:30 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:30 AM Little Monsters a few years ago: "I hope Gaga releases a disco album some day" Gaga: *releases tons of music including a couple of disco tracks* Little Monsters: "Enough with the disco " 1 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 30,398 Posted Friday at 07:31 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:31 AM (edited) Also, why the hell is there that horrible glitch at the start of Shape Of The Woman (0:07)? I first thought it was a problem with the app on my phone but the glitch is just everywhere lmao Edited Friday at 07:33 AM by AVeryGagaHolyDick 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 21,926 Posted Friday at 07:35 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:35 AM 1 minute ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said: Also, why the hell is there that horrible glitch as the start of Shape Of The Woman (0:06)? I first thought it was a problem with the app on my phone but the glitch is just everywhere lmao I disliked the glitch at first but now I dig it It adds a strangeness that works, imo The intro is the best part of the song, regardless 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imogen2133 306 Posted Friday at 08:08 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:08 AM Because fans don't have to like every song she puts out. Runway is obviously a gay pandering song, it's all over the lyrics and looks like it was written by Chat GPT. Gaga's older songs had a campy edge and were influenced by the gays yes but she also took from other references and made the songs about something more and didn't just slap buzzwords all over the songs to make them more "appealing" to gays. It always felt like Gaga was centering gays whilst also being mindful of other demographics and making songs anyone could enjoy(even if the majority of her fans are gay men) and just trying to make good music without pandering like she does more recently. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amourssauvages 120 Posted Friday at 08:15 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:15 AM They have to own their réputation of little complainers. Kinda sad to watch tbh xoxo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 20,688 Posted Friday at 08:19 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:19 AM I don't like this gay pandering discourse about a song written and performed by 2 LGBTQ+ identifying artists. Especially at a time when the community is under attack. Its not pandering for queers to make queer music The gays know how to party 3 1 16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
princedeeblebleble 2,973 Posted Friday at 08:32 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:32 AM Because they are the typical gay men, who when presented something they communicated they want then don't want it anymore because unavailability is the only thing that turns them on Like we saw it with Babylon lol she gave ya'll the version she teased and ya'll tore it apart. Probably also why she doesn't wanna do Act II because most would be crying how outdated 14+ year old songs sound.. Just be grateful for once and stop being cvnty, it's not cute. Cause I'm pretty sure we're having another drought soon and we'll reminiscence the times we kept getting fed 1 1 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 124,318 Posted Friday at 08:34 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 08:34 AM 1 hour ago, GAGA IS GROOVY said: I think the problem with RUNWAY is that it feels a bit like it's trying to pander to the gays a little too heavily.... I know the line between camp and pandering is getting blurrier these days, as gay culture is becoming more and more mainstream, but the line is still there. Gaga's music has always leaned into a certain degree of camp, and she's been embraced by the gays because of it. Born This Way rode that line well - I know when it was released, some older queens called it out for being the first gay anthem written specifically TO BE a gay anthem and disliked it because of that, but I'd argue BTW isn't pandering. There's a clearly sincere message at its heart, something that Gaga had been building towards through her activism before the song's release. I'd also say songs like Donatella or Government Hooker are pure camp, and the gays rightfully turn up for those too. But RUNWAY starts to edge towards pandering territory - the lyric about 'tea', the use of 'biiiiiiiitch', the allusions to ballroom culture etc. etc. Gays can sniff out something that feels a bit forced so I can see why some aren't vibing with it for that reason... the constant comments about it sounding like a Drag Race song are kind of shady... to use some gay lingo hehe. Sorry for my lengthy post, but you really got me thinking! gays who says that it's a drag race song are disrespecting ballroom culture, because before drag race, comes ballroom culture. 21 minutes ago, imogen2133 said: Because fans don't have to like every song she puts out. Runway is obviously a gay pandering song, it's all over the lyrics and looks like it was written by Chat GPT. Gaga's older songs had a campy edge and were influenced by the gays yes but she also took from other references and made the songs about something more and didn't just slap buzzwords all over the songs to make them more "appealing" to gays. It always felt like Gaga was centering gays whilst also being mindful of other demographics and making songs anyone could enjoy(even if the majority of her fans are gay men) and just trying to make good music without pandering like she does more recently. 10 minutes ago, Bronco said: I don't like this gay pandering discourse about a song written and performed by 2 LGBTQ+ identifying artists. Especially at a time when the community is under attack. Its not pandering for queers to make queer music and is that a bad thing? It's a runway song, it's pride month soon.. we need some light in this darkness we live in right now. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 124,318 Posted Friday at 08:35 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 08:35 AM 3 minutes ago, princedeeblebleble said: Because they are the typical gay men, who when presented something they communicated they want then don't want it anymore because unavailability is the only thing that turns them on Like we saw it with Babylon lol she gave ya'll the version she teased and ya'll tore it apart. Probably also why she doesn't wanna do Act II because most would be crying how outdated 14+ year old songs sound.. Just be grateful for once and stop being cvnty, it's not cute. Cause I'm pretty sure we're having another drought soon and we'll reminiscence the times we kept getting fed like if the song plays in the club, they what? stand still angrily and like "NO I WILL NOT DANCE TO IT!", "FEET STOP MOVING! DON'T U DARE!" So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 20,688 Posted Friday at 09:10 AM Share Posted Friday at 09:10 AM 35 minutes ago, River said: and is that a bad thing? It's a runway song, it's pride month soon.. we need some light in this darkness we live in right now. Exactly. Is it the greatest song? No Its not trying to be either. Folks just need to pull the butt plug out and let loose. The gays know how to party 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 42,476 Posted Friday at 09:17 AM Share Posted Friday at 09:17 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said: Also, why the hell is there that horrible glitch at the start of Shape Of The Woman (0:07)? I first thought it was a problem with the app on my phone but the glitch is just everywhere lmao Also the first line of the first verse feels like the in song starts the middle of the verse. Very weird foot to start on overall lmao Edited Friday at 09:22 AM by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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