Harry Potter HBO teaser

[gagzus 18,404]

1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

The racial euphemisms for food lowkey shocked me even as an American. I was watching a YT livestream where the host, who’s from the Northeast US, mentioned going to the “packie” (a New England euphemisms for a “package store”) and a bunch of folks in the UK thought he used a slur against Pakistanis, which would have never even initially occurred to me as a racial epithet 😅

Yeah it’s a horrid way of saying convenience shop over here “P*ki Shop”, a lot of people even some of the most liberal ones use it still, same for Ch*nkies to do with Chinese takeaway. It’s also a very weird thing because it’s used to represent Pakistani people but over here it’s also sometimes used to mock/describe anybody who’s a person of colour (except East Asians weirdly). Due to ignorance, sometimes I’ve seen people use it to denote any black/brown person be they immigrant or not.
 

the stereotype for convenience stores is because of the influx of immigrants who setup businesses in the UK after the partition of India in 1947. So it became common to find Indian/Pakistani family owned businesses or “corner” shops as we call them once again due to stereotyping when not all of their stores are on corners. We have a weird history of racism and micro/macro aggression that people deny is even racist. Even some like 3rd-4th generations of minorities are so used to it it’s become accepted by a lot of them too. Which I’ve noticed outsiders like Black Americans pick up on a lot.

[lodylody 1,788]

1 hour ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

Do you think loads of HBO subscribers will be cancelling their subscription? And do you think that subscriptions would be the only metric HBO uses? It's naive to think that as well as think that HBO hinges the success of a $30 Billion franchise on the success of one show. I need y'all to understand that the HBO show isn't about being good or bringing in a lot of money by itself. It's a hope for Warner, but it's really only secondary. Any release of HP content is going to drive a surge in all other content in the franchise and all other products. Star Wars continues to release controversial (amongst fans) content that at times has trouble finding it's legs. But every time it releases something new, old merch and content sees a huge surge. From renewed marketing, nostalgia, etc. The HBO show doesn't really matter. 

I maintain that “multiple companies support anti-trans hate groups” does not lead to “boycotting one company won’t make that one company stop supporting anti-trans hate groups”.

One does not follow from the other. So I don’t need to engage in any other conversations about how difficult it would be to successfully mount that boycott. My post was to point out that your argument was fundamentally illogical, and it remains so. Your jumping towards other peripheral arguments, rather than engaging with the valid critique of the first one you made, shows an inability or unwillingness to discuss your views with an open mind.

[AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,751]

6 hours ago, lodylody said:

Your list might be accurate but the conclusion you draw is deeply illogical.

You're saying that because a number of anti-trans-supporting corporations are deeply entrenched in modern society, loads of HBO subscribers cancelling their subscriptions wouldn't get them to cancel this shitshow?

It's not adding up.

3 hours ago, lodylody said:

I maintain that “multiple companies support anti-trans hate groups” does not lead to “boycotting one company won’t make that one company stop supporting anti-trans hate groups”.

One does not follow from the other. So I don’t need to engage in any other conversations about how difficult it would be to successfully mount that boycott. My post was to point out that your argument was fundamentally illogical, and it remains so. Your jumping towards other peripheral arguments, rather than engaging with the valid critique of the first one you made, shows an inability or unwillingness to discuss your views with an open mind.

I think you need to re-read what you asked because I answered it. No, people canceling the subscription won't change HBO's behavior. Because they don't truly care about the show itself. Yes, it factors in to attempt to boost subscription numbers. But it mostly acts in tandem with the other portions of the IP to keep the IP relevant.  So again, the subscription cancelations won't make them stop doing this. It might get the show canceled but they'll find something else in a few years. Probably Hogwarts Legacy 2 or the Legacy spinoffs they're doing. It's a $30 Billion IP and I'm sure they'd love to find a way forward with it without the author's PR nightmare but they won't and will just continue to produce HP. Not canceling The Secrets of Dumbledore proved that. Not canceling Hogwarts Legacy proved that. Greenlighting this show proved that. It might work for some companies but it won't for a company that didn't care when the LGBT corporate support bandwagon was a thing, especially now that hating minorities seems to be more socially acceptable. 

[Borisapillar 9,978]

On 3/25/2026 at 5:13 PM, nATAH said:

what actually is the point of this?

The unholy dollar of course 

[lodylody 1,788]

3 hours ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

I think you need to re-read what you asked because I answered it. No, people canceling the subscription won't change HBO's behavior. Because they don't truly care about the show itself. Yes, it factors in to attempt to boost subscription numbers. But it mostly acts in tandem with the other portions of the IP to keep the IP relevant.  So again, the subscription cancelations won't make them stop doing this. It might get the show canceled but they'll find something else in a few years. Probably Hogwarts Legacy 2 or the Legacy spinoffs they're doing. It's a $30 Billion IP and I'm sure they'd love to find a way forward with it without the author's PR nightmare but they won't and will just continue to produce HP. Not canceling The Secrets of Dumbledore proved that. Not canceling Hogwarts Legacy proved that. Greenlighting this show proved that. It might work for some companies but it won't for a company that didn't care when the LGBT corporate support bandwagon was a thing, especially now that hating minorities seems to be more socially acceptable. 

No, YOU need to re-read what I asked. I asked for clarification that you believed what you said: BECAUSE FACT A (loads of companies support anti-trans groups) THEN FACT B (a boycott of an individual company supporting anti-trans groups cannot be successful). I find that argument moronic and not grounded in reality.

It’s that simple. You don’t need to bring other arguments into it. You’re just simply too stubborn to acknowledge that that argument was completely nonsensical. 

This will be my last response. You’re still refusing to acknowledge the glaring error in your logic. Just because a certain number of companies fund anti-trans groups, does not make it impossible for a boycott of an individual company funding anti-trans groups to be successful. There might be other reasons this boycott might be unsuccessful, but that specific argument you first made, and to which I responded, makes no sense. Until you acknowledge your earlier error in your thinking, there’s no point continuing.

[AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,751]

10 hours ago, lodylody said:

Your list might be accurate but the conclusion you draw is deeply illogical.

You're saying that because a number of anti-trans-supporting corporations are deeply entrenched in modern society, loads of HBO subscribers cancelling their subscriptions wouldn't get them to cancel this shitshow?

It's not adding up.

4 hours ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

I think you need to re-read what you asked because I answered it. No, people canceling the subscription won't change HBO's behavior. Because they don't truly care about the show itself. Yes, it factors in to attempt to boost subscription numbers. But it mostly acts in tandem with the other portions of the IP to keep the IP relevant.  So again, the subscription cancelations won't make them stop doing this. It might get the show canceled but they'll find something else in a few years. Probably Hogwarts Legacy 2 or the Legacy spinoffs they're doing. It's a $30 Billion IP and I'm sure they'd love to find a way forward with it without the author's PR nightmare but they won't and will just continue to produce HP. Not canceling The Secrets of Dumbledore proved that. Not canceling Hogwarts Legacy proved that. Greenlighting this show proved that. It might work for some companies but it won't for a company that didn't care when the LGBT corporate support bandwagon was a thing, especially now that hating minorities seems to be more socially acceptable. 

You're saying that because a number of anti-trans-supporting corporations are deeply entrenched in modern society, loads of HBO subscribers cancelling their subscriptions wouldn't get them to cancel this shitshow?

So again, the subscription cancelations won't make them stop doing this.  It might get the show canceled but they'll find something else in a few years. Probably Hogwarts Legacy 2 or the Legacy spinoffs they're doing. It's a $30 Billion IP and I'm sure they'd love to find a way forward with it without the author's PR nightmare but they won't and will just continue to produce HP.
 

56 minutes ago, lodylody said:

No, YOU need to re-read what I asked. I asked for clarification that you believed what you said: BECAUSE FACT A (loads of companies support anti-trans groups) THEN FACT B (a boycott of an individual company supporting anti-trans groups cannot be successful). I find that argument moronic and not grounded in reality.

It’s that simple. You don’t need to bring other arguments into it. You’re just simply too stubborn to acknowledge that that argument was completely nonsensical. 

This will be my last response. You’re still refusing to acknowledge the glaring error in your logic. Just because a certain number of companies fund anti-trans groups, does not make it impossible for a boycott of an individual company funding anti-trans groups to be successful. There might be other reasons this boycott might be unsuccessful, but that specific argument you first made, and to which I responded, makes no sense. Until you acknowledge your earlier error in your thinking, there’s no point continuing.

THEN FACT B (a boycott of an individual company supporting anti-trans groups cannot be successful). I find that argument moronic and not grounded in reality.

It might work for some companies but it won't for a company that didn't care when the LGBT corporate support bandwagon was a thing, especially now that hating minorities seems to be more socially acceptable.

 

 

Mind you, I'm not the one changing my response. I'm expanding upon it. While you changed the question from being about Warner to being about an "individual company funding anti-trans groups to be successful". I specifically said what I believe about Warner in particular, about the Harry Potter show in particular, the Harry Potter IP in general, and generalized my response to be about individual companies. I can hold your hand through the discussion and even point out individual context and subtext but I cannot read it to you with a picture book.

 

 

[bpmMonkey 6,998]

People defending financing this kind of actions is beyond me

 https://www.them.us/story/trans-girls-given-until-september-to-leave-girlguiding-uks-largest-youth-org-for-girls
 

just grow up and say good-bye to a kids movie. 

[Creyk 18,203]

The discourse over this series is so entertaining. I love the drama.