Your Most Disliked GAGA Track

[LGAte 477]

18 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Imagine thinking either of those songs are phoned in and then going to bat for Chromatica 😭 KFL is laden with detail and powerhouse vocals and yet it’s somehow more phoned in than SC, I have to laugh

I get that someone who spends alot of time on the surface of pop music would think that. But as someone who understands the musicality and songwriting and vocal aspect, kill for love is spoofy of Gaga, not well written, and comparatively derivative of earlier work in a really harsh, grinding, and forced way. There is explicitly a reason that it was left off the album as a bonus track. I don't say that to be mean. But it's a song for fans who want a bigger universe, it's not a song for people who wanna stream a good album. 

 

Also Chromatica is just hated on because COVID snuffed it. Upon inception monsters everywhere said it was her most cohesive and well-polished album and that it had multiple strong points. I genuinely don't think there is a song below a C on Chromatica. Sure there are kind of moments of typical pop that some people don't like because of personal taste- but is there a cheesy, contrived, bad song that feels kind of like a diet version of her former part of her career on Chromatica? I'd like to see you name that track on Chromatica because there is not a track like that on Chromatica. 

Many on here need to stop crapping on Chromatica because....there are legitimately bangers on that album that could one day have a viral moment ala Bloody Mary and our own fanbase is dogging it wayyyy too much. Even though Gaga said it wasn't where she felt most herself, she never said she hated it or that she didn't like it, infact she said despite not feeling like herself that she was still proud of it. Her own words. 

Chromatica is a good pop album. Conceptually it's unique. It was a well built world and the marketing was there for a good expansive universe. And there were several songs that were super radio-ready and still unique enough to be a true "Gaga" track. None of the songs on Chromatica could be made by anyone but Gaga. They all still have that distinct Gaga strangeness to them. You aren't going to ever hear Sabrina Carpenter or Billie Eilish or Addison Rae do 911, Alice, Plastic Doll, Enigma, Replay, or Babylon like that. They just couldn't pull it off. 

Edited 21 hours ago by LGAte

[Ladle Ghoulash 37,764]

1 minute ago, LGAte said:

I get that someone who spends alot of time on the surface of pop music would think that. But as someone who understands the musicality and songwriting and vocal aspect, kill for love is spoofy of Gaga, not well written, and comparatively derivative of earlier work in a really harsh, grinding, and forced way. 

 

Also Chromatica is just hated on because COVID snuffed it. Upon inception monsters everywhere said it was her most cohesive and well-polished album and that it had multiple strong points. I genuinely don't think there is a song below a C on Chromatica. Sure there are kind of moments of typical pop that some people don't like because of personal taste- but is there a cheesy, contrived, bad song that feels kind of like a diet version of her former part of her career on Chromatica? I'd like to see you name that track on Chromatica because there is not a track like that on Chromatica. 

Many on here need to stop crapping on Chromatica because....there are legitimately bangers on that album that could one day have a viral moment ala Bloody Mary and our own fanbase is dogging it wayyyy too much. Even though Gaga said it wasn't where she felt most herself, she never said she hated it or that she didn't like it, infact she said despite not feeling like herself that she was still proud of it. Her own words. 

Chromatica is a good pop album. Conceptually it's unique. It was a well built world and the marketing was there for a good expansive universe. And there were several songs that were super radio-ready and still unique enough to be a true "Gaga" track. None of the songs on Chromatica could be made by anyone but Gaga. They all still have that distinct Gaga strangeness to them. You aren't going to ever hear Sabrina Carpenter or Billie Eilish or Addison Rae do 911, Alice, Plastic Doll, Enigma, Replay, or Babylon like that. They just couldn't pull it off. 

Yeah, as someone who is a studied musician, I can safely say that the harmonic structure and musical intricacy of KFL blows basically everything on Chromatica out of the water. I also love that you start the argument on the grounds of musical intricacy, then proceed to immediately devolve into questions of taste, in part because there’s no way to meaningfully argue that the musical substance of songs largely built over basic open chord structures, sidechained pre-programmed drumming, and paint by numbers baselines is more thoughtfully constructed than something as alive as multiple harmonic and groove based instrumental parts bouncing off of each other, not to mention the effortless pocket the vocal finds itself in. Cute that you thought you could wave away someone else’s knowledge of music that easily only to blow out a bunch of hot air, though. You really tried it. 
 

Nowhere did I say Chromatica was a *bad* album, but if we’re strictly talking composition, the music is fairly basic and bare bones. IMO the layered, dense instrumentation and lush harmonies of MAYHEM (which I think harken back to, and in many cases improve on, her signature style from TF -> even through Joanne) are more quintessentially Gaga than most of what’s on Chromatica, but I just don’t see any real argument for the idea that Chromatica is more musically interesting than MAYHEM. 

[apollorowling 680]

31 minutes ago, Anderson123 said:

This is such an underrated song. It's very catchy and would've been fun if they finished it. I love that we had no idea about this and just leaked out of nowhere when we keep talking about several other ARTPOP Act II songs.

Yeah! I think that if she worked in the verses the song would be VERY GOOD 😆 But even with the verses of the demo, It's a funny song 😂

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22 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Nowhere did I say Chromatica was a *bad* album.

Just to add... Chromatica felt like a forced album. Just to fill her contract with Interscope.

[PornoDanceFight 992]

1 hour ago, Zombieboyyy said:

Am I the only one who likes Hey Girl?

Not at all, my sister. There are dozens of us who love this feminist-shine-theory-Bennie-and-the-Jets-piano-synth-pop-banger.

[Ultimecia 6,141]

2 hours ago, Zombieboyyy said:

Am I the only one who likes Hey Girl?

I like it! 

As soon as the bridge starts, the song becomes exquisite!

[TheFrenchGuy 3,916]

2 hours ago, LGAte said:

is there a cheesy, contrived, bad song that feels kind of like a diet version of her former part of her career on Chromatica?

Fun Tonight 

Sour Candy 

Plastic Doll 

... and there could be more but they have redeeming qualities 

 

I still enjoy them. But they're clearly not her best work. Bad lyrics, flat production, cheesy. 

The only bad thing about Kill for love (all 3 bonus tracks for that matter) that I can agree on is that the lyrics are pretty basic for Gaga's standards. But in terms of musicality, interpretation, delivery and production, Mayhem blows most of Chromatica out of the water. 

I feel like you value concept and lyrics over musicality and production and that's fine, that's an interesting perspective. But I think your approach to this conversation is very pedantic and condescending tbh

Edited 18 hours ago by TheFrenchGuy

[Anderson123 41,023]

2 hours ago, apollorowling said:

Just to add... Chromatica felt like a forced album. Just to fill her contract with Interscope.

I feel more like she wanted to do a dance album FOR US and let Bloodpop take care of it because she wasn't really giving her 100% like in other projects. It's still a pretty damn good album but you can tell she just wasn't at her best. She was coming from Cheek To Cheek, Joanne and A Star Is Born so maybe her next move was dance music and really wanted to do her best and deliver something to make us happy. She doesn't really seem the artist that at this point in her career would do a random album just to "fill a contract with her record label". Like she had just renewed it with Joanne, she could've taken a longer break if she wanted, especially coming from A Star Is Born and that Oscar win.

[IllusionLover 7,193]

The Cure 

Also DWAS bc of how overplayed by the locals is 

Edited 18 hours ago by IllusionLover

[pucihendzap 148]

Eh eh

The dead dance

Shape of a woman

Hold my hand nothing will be okay

[Ophelia 5,083]

9 minutes ago, pucihendzap said:

Shape of a woman

if you can rate the song just by LQ 30 seconds it says more about you than the track

[palma 8,674]

Oh god 

Bad Kids is just... bad and I'm a major BTW album stan
Have been skipping Jewels n' Drugs since it came out
A-YO is one of her worst attempts at making a hit song
Come to Mawma is a bit unlistenable
Why Did You Do That is Ally Maine's worst song and made her husband spiral, no matter what Diane Warren says
Fun Tonight, Free Woman (album version) and Plastic Doll did make me question whether she still had it pre-MAYHEM
 

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2 hours ago, Anderson123 said:

I feel more like she wanted to do a dance album FOR US and let Bloodpop take care of it because she wasn't really giving her 100% like in other projects. It's still a pretty damn good album but you can tell she just wasn't at her best. She was coming from Cheek To Cheek, Joanne and A Star Is Born so maybe her next move was dance music and really wanted to do her best and deliver something to make us happy. She doesn't really seem the artist that at this point in her career would do a random album just to "fill a contract with her record label". Like she had just renewed it with Joanne, she could've taken a longer break if she wanted, especially coming from A Star Is Born and that Oscar win.

Well, maybe I think that about Chromatica, because with Mayhem, she seems very excited, very much like the old Gaga; it's like that energy between The Fame and the beginning of ARTPOP (JUST THE BEGINNING). I feel like Joanne and Chromatica were albums where she wasn't quite herself, like she didn't have that usual spark. I understand she might have been going through a rough patch; at the end of the day, she's a human being like all of us. This afternoon I listened to Chromatica again, and I don't know, it felt very flat in terms of sound, lyrics, concept, etc.

[thisboyisamonster 1,148]

There's a few, some might be controversial picks...

Come to mama

Hey Girl

Fun tonight 

Gypsy 

Brown Eyes

 

[Schwerk 7,408]

From worst to tolerable:

Why did you do that?

- No, just no.

Garden of Eden

- Reminds me of the Pussycat Dolls in a bad way. Lyrically its not giving me anything. The live version made me dislike it even more because she's trying to make it rock 'n roll, but it's one of the least rocking songs she has. The random mediocre guitar playing makes it seem even more awkward to me. Kind of try hard. I prefer to see her rock out more genuinely.

Brooklyn Nights

- Don't understand why many people think this is so special. I don't like the grating, highschool girl sound the chorus has. Hard to describe why exactly, but it's the same reason I don't like Taylor Swifts songs. The piano version at the Mayhem Ball was a nice rendition though.

How bad do you want me

- Couldn't stand it at first, especially because of that highschool girl sound I don't vibe with. Mayhem Ball made me like it more cause it reminds me of Gaga smiling ear to ear on that runway.

But I like/love her the entire remainder of her catalog. Actually a lot of people's hated songs I love a lot, like Fun Tonight.

Edited 15 hours ago by Schwerk