Did you expect more from Parris x Gaga ?

[MountainMonster 1,451]

6 minutes ago, nATAH said:

for a song that isn't dance pop?

 

7 minutes ago, Zombiecat said:

the Disease choreo gagged me

wasn't a dance MV i guess, suited the song perfectly 

 

56 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Ended her so fiercely, I fear 

 

1 hour ago, REALITY said:

This is why fans shouldn't be creative directors 

The visuals and choreography from the MAYHEM Ball performance of Disease are vastly superior to the Disease music video, something more in that vein would have been more interesting - and let’s not get it twisted, clearly the Disease music video performed poorly, gained no traction and has become her least watched “lead” single video in her career. So hopefully we can look at facts and universally agree it didn’t work. Also, Abra conveys the same message about duality while being 95% choreography. And Disease was also choreographed by Parris, if you count rhythmic writhing and slithering like a garter snake between two buildings choreography. 
 

Disease (the video) alluded to horror movies and poorly executed those - so much so that watching it feels like we’re in our own remake of saw, being forced to watch a boring video to one of the best songs she has ever created. 

[Ladle Ghoulash 36,458]

2 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

 

 

 

The visuals and choreography from the MAYHEM Ball performance of Disease are vastly superior to the Disease music video, something more in that vein would have been more interesting - and let’s not get it twisted, clearly the Disease music video performed poorly, gained no traction and has become her least watched “lead” single video in her career. So hopefully we can look at facts and universally agree it didn’t work. Also, Abra conveys the same message about duality while being 95% choreography. And Disease was also choreographed by Parris, if you count rhythmic writhing and slithering like a garter snake between two buildings choreography. 
 

Disease (the video) alluded to horror movies and poorly executed those - so much so that watching it feels like we’re in our own remake of saw, being forced to watch a boring video to one of the best songs she has ever created. 

Couldn’t disagree more, tbh. I think the MBT performance is good and serves its function, but the internalized surreal psychological horror of the video clears the live performance. One of the only videos of hers that leans into horror that I found genuinely unsettling aesthetically and tonally.

[Bronco 17,352]

5 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

and let’s not get it twisted, clearly the Disease music video performed poorly, gained no traction and has become her least watched “lead” single video in her career. So hopefully we can look at facts and universally agree it didn’t work. 

This is such a reductive take on artistry.

"Its got low viewership so automatically we must agree it is bad and there can be no alternative opinions". 

[MountainMonster 1,451]

3 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Couldn’t disagree more, tbh. I think the MBT performance is good and serves its function, but the internalized surreal psychological horror of the video clears the live performance. One of the only videos of hers that leans into horror that I found genuinely unsettling aesthetically and tonally.

I just feel like it’s neither campy enough nor horror enough to successfully do its job. Either push the camp factor to an extreme and go over the top in that direction or push it in the opposite direction and go actually unsettling. I just think it landed squarely in the middle at boring. 

[MountainMonster 1,451]

1 minute ago, Bronco said:

This is such a reductive take on artistry.

"Its got low viewership so automatically we must agree it is bad and there can be no alternative opinions". 

Thanks, Madge. 

[Bronco 17,352]

Just now, MountainMonster said:

Thanks, Madge. 

Was that an attempt at shade? 

Is this your first day as a homosexual? Has no one taught you how to do it yet? 

[MountainMonster 1,451]

Just now, Bronco said:

Was that an attempt at shade? 

Is this your first day as a homosexual? Has no one taught you how to do it yet? 

Homosexual!? 

[Ladle Ghoulash 36,458]

3 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

I just feel like it’s neither campy enough nor horror enough to successfully do its job. Either push the camp factor to an extreme and go over the top in that direction or push it in the opposite direction and go actually unsettling. I just think it landed squarely in the middle at boring. 

I wouldn’t even say I find it especially camp, so it doesn’t really strike me as aiming for that. Idk I mean, I found it unsettling, but it sounds like we just interpreted it differently 

[MountainMonster 1,451]

4 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I wouldn’t even say I find it especially camp, so it doesn’t really strike me as aiming for that. Idk I mean, I found it unsettling, but it sounds like we just interpreted it differently 

For sure, and as always I respect your opinion. Except when it has to do with the excessive amount of times that Gaga holds a guitar in the MAYHEM ball. 

[Ladle Ghoulash 36,458]

Just now, MountainMonster said:

For sure, and as always I respect your opinion. Except when it has to do with the excessive amount of times that Gaga holds a guitar in the MAYHEM ball. 

I appreciate that and I think we do finally agree on the guitar 🪦

[MarvinGa 3]

The era just needed one/two more singles with music videos. There was so much potential but I get it’s not 2010 anymore. 
 

[bim 737]

11 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

And Disease was also choreographed by Parris, if you count rhythmic writhing and slithering like a garter snake between two buildings choreography. 

I saw this part of the video to be her crawling out of her skin while the walls were closing in on her, which I feel suits the song quite well. It’s not c*unty song to dance to and be gagged by. It’s dark, uncomfortable, and explosive. Abra has a different ferocity to it. As I see it, they don’t allow for the same movements. Disease grows intensely inward while Abra has an outward flow to it.

Disease is possibly my favorite song of her career and I don’t think the Mayhem Ball conveyed well how I hear or see it. It’s not nearly feral enough. I found the antidote and poison acoustic versions captured the essence better. And even if it were a standalone, Disease deserved a performance like the rock version of Abra mixed with her drunken rock version of Shallow or Moth to a Flame.

To each their own for sure though. 

[nATAH 53,513]

20 minutes ago, MountainMonster said:

 

 

 

The visuals and choreography from the MAYHEM Ball performance of Disease are vastly superior to the Disease music video, something more in that vein would have been more interesting - and let’s not get it twisted, clearly the Disease music video performed poorly, gained no traction and has become her least watched “lead” single video in her career. So hopefully we can look at facts and universally agree it didn’t work. Also, Abra conveys the same message about duality while being 95% choreography. And Disease was also choreographed by Parris, if you count rhythmic writhing and slithering like a garter snake between two buildings choreography. 
 

Disease (the video) alluded to horror movies and poorly executed those - so much so that watching it feels like we’re in our own remake of saw, being forced to watch a boring video to one of the best songs she has ever created. 

are you serious? you prefer the sandbox humping over the masterpiece music video?

it seems more like you missed the point of the video than the video actually being bad... you criticize the "writhing and slithering" but praise the sandbox choreo which is essentially the same thing? she just wiggles around the box and dances with her arms (and then wrestles with the lady in red... which she does in the video too!?!)... lowkey you make no sense

[MountainMonster 1,451]

1 minute ago, bim said:

I saw this part of the video to be her crawling out of her skin while the walls were closing in on her, which I feel suits the song quite well. It’s not c*unty song to dance to and be gagged by. It’s dark, uncomfortable, and explosive. Abra has a different ferocity to it. As I see it, they don’t allow for the same movements. Disease grows intensely inward while Abra has an outward flow to it.

Disease is possibly my favorite song of her career and I don’t think the Mayhem Ball conveyed well how I hear or see it. It’s not nearly feral enough. I found the antidote and poison acoustic versions captured the essence better. And even if it were a standalone, Disease deserved a performance like the rock version of Abra mixed with her drunken rock version of Shallow or Moth to a Flame.

To each their own for sure though. 

I could see that. And I want to clarify, I don’t think that Disease would be better with Abra’s choreo. I’m just saying I wish there was something more interesting. The pulsing, pounding synths and bass feel dirty and grimy and sinister. And I just don’t feel like that’s what I get from the movements in the video. 

[MountainMonster 1,451]

1 minute ago, nATAH said:

are you serious? you prefer the sandbox humping over the masterpiece music video?

it seems more like you missed the point of the video than the video actually being bad... you criticize the "writhing and slithering" but praise the sandbox choreo which is essentially the same thing? she just wiggles around the box and dances with her arms (and then wrestles with the lady in red... which she does in the video too!?!)... lowkey you make no sense

The music video is in broad daylight. She’s mostly stationary and chilling in a suburban neighborhood. It just doesn’t feel nearly as sinister as the moodiness and grime of the crypt. And the writhes are better. Perhaps because it’s not just her laying on the hood of a car (though that is my favorite part of the video).