PartySick 172,729 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just for funsies I asked Gemini about Gaga, Koons, and Epstein Based on recently released documents and reports (as of early 2026), there are connections between artist Jeff Koons, financier Jeffrey Epstein, and singer Lady Gaga, primarily centered around a 2013 dinner party and attempts to connect with the singer during her ARTPOP era. * Jeff Koons Attended an Epstein Dinner (2013): Artist Jeff Koons confirmed that he attended a dinner party at Jeffrey Epstein’s Upper East Side residence on September 4, 2013. * Koons' Statement: Through his gallery (Gagosian), Koons stated he "did not have a relationship with Epstein" beyond attending that single dinner. * Epstein’s Interest in Gaga (2013): During Lady Gaga's ARTPOP era (roughly 2013), Jeffrey Epstein reportedly tried to contact her multiple times and showed interest in her Born This Way Foundation. * Gaga Ignored Requests: Lady Gaga and her team allegedly never responded to these requests from Epstein. * The Koons-Gaga Connection: Jeff Koons designed the cover for Lady Gaga's 2013 album ARTPOP. * Attempted Connection through Koons: Some reports suggest that while Epstein was trying to reach Gaga, it was actually Jeff Koons who had invited Epstein to the ArtRave album release party, though it is unclear if he attended. * Other Attendees: The 2013 dinner attended by Koons also included Woody Allen and MIT professor Neil Gershenfeld. In summary, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to reach Lady Gaga in 2013, a period when she was collaborating with Jeff Koons. Meanwhile, Koons himself attended a dinner hosted by Epstein in 2013, which he confirmed, stating it was his only meeting with the financier. I fear Gemini is subject to lobotomies via search filters and censors but it does provide a link to a source for most of these things. Of course, the sources are things like "USA Today" and "The Times of Israel" so...it depends on if you trust the media, I guess Whimsical bitch 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: They’re saying Epstein is affiliated with the far right and the creation of many of the core theories associated with QAnon and MAGA, as well as having collaborated with fascist tech bro Peter Thiel to help spread propaganda to promote tribalism for the purposes of dividing and conquering the masses (all of which appears to be corroborated by the Epstein Files). Hmm from what I know hes not a right wing and di not push for a right wing agenda. Hes also affiliated with progressives like Noam Chomsky and Steven Pinker, or people like Bill Gates and Bill Clinton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,594 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 7 minutes ago, faysalaaa said: Hmm from what I know hes not a right wing and di not push for a right wing agenda. Hes also affiliated with progressives like Noam Chomsky and Steven Pinker, or people like Bill Gates and Bill Clinton. I mean, he appears to have collaborated with Bannon to install Trump as president to try to have an “inside man” in hopes of evading accountability in his federal case lol. Not to mention, as I stated before, he also worked with Thiel to undermine global democracy for financial gain. He may not have really been ideologically anything other than greedy and self-interested, but I’d say it’s pretty well-established that he exploited right wing conspiracy theories for personal gain and may even be responsible. Edited February 17 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,336 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: I mean, he literally collaborated with Bannon to install Trump as president to try to have an “inside man” in hopes of evading accountability in his federal case lol. Not to mention, as I stated before, he also worked with Thiel to undermine global democracy for financial gain. He may not have really been ideologically anything other than greedy and self-interested, but I’d say it’s pretty well-established that he exploited right wing conspiracy theories for personal gain. Yes exploiting right wingers is different than being part of them. I dont think he cares about MAGA ideology, he cares that he personally knows Trump. If Trump was a Democrat, he would have supported Trump regardless of his politics. Im not trying to defend right wingers, but we have to identify the issue if u want to defeat it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,729 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, faysalaaa said: Yes exploiting right wingers is different than being part of them. I dont think he cares about MAGA ideology, he cares that he personally knows Trump. If Trump was a Democrat, he would have supported Trump regardless of his politics. Im not trying to defend right wingers, but we have to identify the issue if u want to defeat it. I think the issue is that the most notorious human trafficker partnered with alt-right figure heads to hijack a major American political party (and eventually the American government itself) because they knew a sufficient number of voters for that party are gullible enough to believe Hillary Clinton was selling baby parts out of a pizza shop's basement. If not THE issue, it's a huge part of it Whimsical bitch 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 7,102 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 29 minutes ago, faysalaaa said: Hmm from what I know hes not a right wing and di not push for a right wing agenda. Hes also affiliated with progressives like Noam Chomsky and Steven Pinker, or people like Bill Gates and Bill Clinton. I saw he and Bill Gates were talking about getting rid of poor people and about doing a pandemic simulation or something along those lines 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,068 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Lextyr97 said: He’s in the files!?!? he has an exchange with epstein inviting him to the artrave and mentioned how well he knows Gaga idk that gives a level of familiarity im more suss over Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley 10,245 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 9 hours ago, Lextyr97 said: Of all available files, Gaga is mentioned but shows no indication of being involved. What scares me though is Marina Abromivic, however you spell her name. She has lots of connections to people in that orbit, and as we know, Gaga was buddy buddy with her and attending the spirit cooking art exhibit. I’m not accusing her but after the rabbit hole I went down specifically in regards to the cannibalism, it makes my skin crawl a bit Gaga did not attend a “spirit cooking” event though she did attend and participate in other performance art pieces. “Spirit cooking” in the sense of it being an occult ritual of satanic worship, eating people, etc. isn’t real. That’s something far-right conspiracy theorists created. Marina did have an art piece called Spirit Cooking in 1996…when Gaga was 10yrs old. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 53,594 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Ashley said: Gaga did not attend a “spirit cooking” event though she did attend and participate in other performance art pieces. “Spirit cooking” in the sense of it being an occult ritual of satanic worship, eating people, etc. isn’t real. That’s something far-right conspiracy theorists created. Marina did have an art piece called Spirit Cooking in 1996…when Gaga was 10yrs old. That’s what’s so funny about the Epstein files is that much of it doesn’t center around the culprits that far-right ran with in 2016-2017. You know those QAnon chuds ran to the files looking for Marina Abramovic and were gagged when they, apparently, found nothing lol We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 15,891 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, faysalaaa said: Are you saying Epstein is a right winger, or a problem on the right? He was anti-globalism and he faked Pizzagate to get Trump to win. This is a universal issue, but he was generally right wing. he/him/his Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidLuis198 1,245 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 15 hours ago, Lextyr97 said: Of all available files, Gaga is mentioned but shows no indication of being involved. What scares me though is Marina Abromivic, however you spell her name. She has lots of connections to people in that orbit, and as we know, Gaga was buddy buddy with her and attending the spirit cooking art exhibit. I’m not accusing her but after the rabbit hole I went down specifically in regards to the cannibalism, it makes my skin crawl a bit I’m really sorry if this read as harsh, I have a problem with tone while writing in english, but this thing with people believing the stupid claims against Marina Abramovic annoys me so much, especially coming from Lady Gaga fans, I won’t try and defend Marina and say I have 100% trust in her as a person, but it’s such a disregard for her history and importance in the art world and most of all, just plain ignorance In the first 3 years of her career, Gaga wore raw meat TWICE, sang dressed as a demon in national television, did multiple performances with her body showered in fake blood (complete with a fountain in the shape of an angel that spewed blood), used various prosthetics to add horns to her face and shoulders, ate a raw cow heart on camera, received vomit from an artist in more than one occasion, and so many weird, “creepy” stuff that people around the world criticized as satanic or even worst… And then you go and say Marina Abramovic makes your skin crawl because Gaga and her went together to a beneficent event and participated in the performance of ANOTHER ARTIST, eating honey from the body of a naked woman? That’s pure ignorance… Specially coming from Gaga fans that love to keep repeating all the time how they miss the early “dark Gaga” and wish she was as “bolder” as she was before… If people stopped being scared of things they know exactly nothing about and did some real research (not watch dumb posts and videos of people who say everything is a satanic conspiracy theory) they would understand now only Marina’s art, but maybe see that Marina was probably one of the best people Gaga was involved at that time. I’m pretty sure that the Abramovic Method, as “hardcore” as it was (also “weird” for some), helped Gaga a lot at a time she was enduring a lot of pain and physical stress. And maybe the philosophy and the focus Marina always gave to the body as a tool in her art was the flame that ignited the long process of healing body and mind that Gaga went through for so many years. I don't know how to write in english 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helxig 45,396 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I've been seeing a lot of TikTok videos of people opening and reading the emails and words can't describe how disturbing it all is. In the past I might've thought it was ridiculous to assume such atrocities as what you mentioned in the OP but now I would believe it. It's very hard to not fall into a swirl of emotions and believe this world is completely rotten. Try to zoom out, stop focussing on this shocking information and the people involved, and give yourself a break from it all. Remember your friends, family, workmates, the regular people who are NOT evil incarnate I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 20,796 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 hours ago, DavidLuis198 said: I’m really sorry if this read as harsh, I have a problem with tone while writing in english, but this thing with people believing the stupid claims against Marina Abramovic annoys me so much, especially coming from Lady Gaga fans, I won’t try and defend Marina and say I have 100% trust in her as a person, but it’s such a disregard for her history and importance in the art world and most of all, just plain ignorance In the first 3 years of her career, Gaga wore raw meat TWICE, sang dressed as a demon in national television, did multiple performances with her body showered in fake blood (complete with a fountain in the shape of an angel that spewed blood), used various prosthetics to add horns to her face and shoulders, ate a raw cow heart on camera, received vomit from an artist in more than one occasion, and so many weird, “creepy” stuff that people around the world criticized as satanic or even worst… And then you go and say Marina Abramovic makes your skin crawl because Gaga and her went together to a beneficent event and participated in the performance of ANOTHER ARTIST, eating honey from the body of a naked woman? That’s pure ignorance… Specially coming from Gaga fans that love to keep repeating all the time how they miss the early “dark Gaga” and wish she was as “bolder” as she was before… If people stopped being scared of things they know exactly nothing about and did some real research (not watch dumb posts and videos of people who say everything is a satanic conspiracy theory) they would understand now only Marina’s art, but maybe see that Marina was probably one of the best people Gaga was involved at that time. I’m pretty sure that the Abramovic Method, as “hardcore” as it was (also “weird” for some), helped Gaga a lot at a time she was enduring a lot of pain and physical stress. And maybe the philosophy and the focus Marina always gave to the body as a tool in her art was the flame that ignited the long process of healing body and mind that Gaga went through for so many years. I’ll be honest, I’m not reading all of that because I should’ve been more clear and shouldn’t have said it made me skin crawl. For one, I’m not really THAT scared over it. I trust Gaga. Secondly, in regards to the associations Marina has, specially Tony and John Podesta- it makes me uneasy. I should’ve said that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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