Why are all the pop girls silent?

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22 minutes ago, PEZ said:

I largely agree with this and that a celeb saying something like "today we are all Minnesotans " would be lame and ineffective but at the same time I wish I saw more "signal boost"-y posts from people with large follower counts. Like if they could share "here's what the ACLU recommends if you want to video record ICE" or "here's a donation link to a local mutual aid group, they need money for hand warmers." I could actually use information like that, and act on it.

 

19 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Yeah, signal boosting is probably the most effective type of messaging in this context for celebrities. Agreed. 

Absolutely. Celebrities don't need to be out in the streets leading the charge but they have huge platforms that they should use to amplify the right voices.

If Gaga hopped on TikTok, X, Insta, or anything else to actively post sources that outline your rights if ICE threatens you or is nearby or while you're protesting that would be incredible.

And also so very, very easy to do.

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The last thing I’m gonna say is: I think a great example of how little celeb involvement in modern politics generally moves the needle is how, in spite of Swift’s endorsement coming at the peak of her commercial and cultural powers, it didn’t meaningfully move the needle in the 2024 election. I’m not saying, nor would I say, that she *shouldn’t* have done it, but my main argument (despite some fairly bad faith mischaracterizations) has only ever been that, while it’s a gesture that reflects a morally correct position, it doesn’t effect real world outcomes the way online pop stans think it does.

Edited January 25 by Ladle Ghoulash

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I didn’t read all 5 pages so don’t know if this is redundant or been argued but I do actually think because she’s in Japan right now, she’s holding off to verbally say something at the US shows. Of course she can post on social while she’s abroad but I can see her viewing that as “inauthentic celeb checking a box” move. Just my thoughts. Hope she does say something soon. 

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I think there’s a lot of gray area in these things. I have conflicting opinions on the topic of celebrities speaking out about this. I feel the most impactful approach is when there’s a clear call to action, such as ‘register to vote’ or ‘go vote’. Right now the main call to action would be to go protest, and while that is essential right now, it is also incredibly dangerous. We just saw a white male get murdered, which is the demographic considered to be the ‘safest’. People taking to the streets right now need to really know what they’re doing/what they’re up against/what the potential risks and consequences are. A lot of people, especially young children, follow celebrities blindly.

I don’t know what the answer is. This is a horrifying point in history. Everyone please be safe. 

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7 minutes ago, Papergangstuh said:

I didn’t read all 5 pages so don’t know if this is redundant or been argued but I do actually think because she’s in Japan right now, she’s holding off to verbally say something at the US shows. Of course she can post on social while she’s abroad but I can see her viewing that as “inauthentic celeb checking a box” move. Just my thoughts. Hope she does say something soon. 

It doesn't have to be a platitude. During the height of the BLM movement she sacrificed her platform to their sources. Amplified their voices to her enormous audience. That counts for something tbh.

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18 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

The last thing I’m gonna say is: I think a great example of how little celeb involvement in modern politics generally moves the needle is how, in spite of Swift’s endorsement coming at the peak of her commercial and cultural powers, it didn’t meaningfully move the needle in the 2024 election. I’m not saying, nor would I say, that she *shouldn’t* have done it, but my main argument (despite some fairly bad faith mischaracterizations) has only ever been that, while it’s a gesture that reflects a morally correct position, it doesn’t effect real world outcomes the way online pop stans think it does.

Sis I'm with you, mass hysteria is a thing

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8 minutes ago, PartySick said:

It doesn't have to be a platitude. During the height of the BLM movement she sacrificed her platform to their sources. Amplified their voices to her enormous audience. That counts for something tbh.

I completely agree. But I also do remember many people here and all over twitter groaning and rolling their eyes during all those posts. Even recently on ATRL people referencing that period as cringe. I don’t agree with those sentiments and think she should say **** that, but labels, PR, etc. 100% pay attention to that stuff unfortunately. 

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I mean, yes, it is very weird, for mainly Gaga to not say anything. She is known to be the most politically charged of pop girls. 
 

Sure, she did many things back then, and that is a great use of her platform.  So why can't she continue to do that? Silence is complicity. Very rarely is "if you're not with me, you're against me" said by good people. BUT, when it comes to speaking against literal fascism and gestapo in the making, it is very cut and dry. 

She even did something sneaky during her Half Time set when she sang this land ia your land, and hugging a latina during her acoustic set. 

I suspect there might be discussions had behind the curtain between her and her team about this. And that ahe is advised to not say or do anything that could harm her, physically and financially. Because OG Gaga fans will already KNOW she ain't like this. 

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3 minutes ago, Papergangstuh said:

I completely agree. But I also do remember many people here and all over twitter groaning and rolling their eyes during all those posts. Even recently on ATRL people referencing that period as cringe. I don’t agree with those sentiments and think she should say **** that, but labels, PR, etc. 100% pay attention to that stuff unfortunately. 

Imagine Gaga sacrificing her voice to a label? Or surrending her morality to internet comment driven PR? As an excuse to not say something when literal nazis are shooting people in the back in the streets  

Not arguing with you, I know you agree in spirit, but if that's truly why she's staying silent then she's even further gone than I thought she was.

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22 minutes ago, Papergangstuh said:

I didn’t read all 5 pages so don’t know if this is redundant or been argued but I do actually think because she’s in Japan right now, she’s holding off to verbally say something at the US shows. Of course she can post on social while she’s abroad but I can see her viewing that as “inauthentic celeb checking a box” move. Just my thoughts. Hope she does say something soon. 

She can simply post something on her IG reel or tiktok page to say and show that she condemn and stand against what happened, just like Ariana, Olivia and others who cares, instead of dancing and being cute. Her attitude is very Taylor Swift rn for that. 

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I’m kinda over looking to pop stars to speak on political issues and topics. When will y'all realize that while talented, they are just rich people living in the US…

at the end of the day they will post and give a moment of silence then continue milking the public for more in more money from the comfort of their mansions. 

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i really believe Madonna will say something
she’s not afraid to speak, and she always cared for her fans, and people in general

i don’t say Gaga doesn’ care, but Madonna has ”bigger baLLs”

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I'm not in the US but at least here I think a big danger is that a lot of crazy right-wing people seem to believe "secretly everyone agrees with me, they're just afraid to say so".

So even though it might look performative, I do think it's important for everyone who has a platform to speak out, even if their position seems to be clear. Just to distance themselves from it and to make the voices that are opposing this insanity louder. I don't think it's about changing minds, but about giving the right-wingers a feeling that they aren't the majority and they aren't welcome.

And Gaga does seem to have some weirdo MAGA people who follow her...there's an insane amount of AI trash of celebrities out there and a lot of people can't tell what's real. 

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11 minutes ago, Nite said:

I'm not in the US but at least here I think a big danger is that a lot of crazy right-wing people seem to believe "secretly everyone agrees with me, they're just afraid to say so".

So even though it might look performative, I do think it's important for everyone who has a platform to speak out, even if their position seems to be clear. Just to distance themselves from it and to make the voices that are opposing this insanity louder. I don't think it's about changing minds, but about giving the right-wingers a feeling that they aren't the majority and they aren't welcome.

And Gaga does seem to have some weirdo MAGA people who follow her...there's an insane amount of AI trash of celebrities out there and a lot of people can't tell what's real. 

If we’re talking about MAGA specifically, there might be a small, vocal contingency that think she agrees with them, but imo, most of them view her about as die-hard of a lefty as they they come. They also tend to view celebs, in particular, as a vocal, elite minority. 

Edited January 25 by Ladle Ghoulash

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Maybe it’s just my age, but I believe absolutely nothing celebrities can do in 2026 will make a difference unless they’re actively donating to people and orgs that combat ICE. That’s just a fact. 
 

People say it “brings awareness” but awareness doesn’t matter now because people are hyper aware, it’s on the news, it’s on social media, it’s in conversations with your family or a person you know in the line for the drug store. It’s unavoidable.

We live in the age where Gen Z tweets about how critical they are of modern celebrities, and unless they’re standing at gun point will never be satisfied. We live in a world where people post online about how people should be putting their bodies on the line and compromising their safety for strangers. Do I think it’s horrid what’s happening? Absolutely. But would I willingly put myself in danger? Absolutely not. And celebrities should and will feel the same. 
 

Gaga has been active behind the scenes in politics for years but people here dont seem to research that enough, and even made her stance on anti-immigration clear 15 years ago and even dedicated a song to it on her album and tour. I think she will have put money behind stopping these things as best she can.