The double standard of Terry Richardson

[PartySick 167,262]

20 minutes ago, River said:

DJWS is the reason why she defended R. Kelly, he knew Kelly before and he introduced her to him, I believe he influenced her that everything is fiiinnneeee

She was 26/27 while making ARTPOP  she was an is an adult and is responsible for what goes on her albums

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11 minutes ago, PartySick said:

She was 26/27 while making ARTPOP  she was an is an adult and is responsible for what goes on her albums

she was also mostly drunk, drugged and abused by her old team and manager, her state of mind was totally off 

[River 122,051]

51 minutes ago, elsamars said:

I don't remember Miley or Beyoncé claiming to be a "kindness" punk.

Sometimes, the hypocrisy or virtue signaling is what puts people off.

you can be kind, but still an asshole at the same time.

I'm the perfect example for this chaotic duality 

 

Also, Bey is only claiming the work of the other people as her own or covering up for her abusive husband 

And Miley is not even claiming her own career at this point 

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26 minutes ago, River said:

she was also mostly drunk, drugged...her state of mind was totally off

Well, yes.

26 minutes ago, River said:

she was also mostly drunk, drugged...by her old team and manager, her state of mind was totally off 

Well, no.

She said many, many times she used substances to cope with a myriad of things. Trauma, isolation, depression, physical pain, etc. She never said anyone forced her to use or drink. Maybe she was peer pressured in the beginning to party a bit but that's got nothing to do with R. Kelly showing up on her fourth album.

Addicts are responsible for themselves and their own actions. Even she agrees with that which is why she wrote a song that's an apology to her loved ones for her drug use.

29 minutes ago, River said:

she was...abused

And you'd think that would make her reconsider having R. Kelly on her song  

There is no excuse tbh. If there was, she wouldn't have apologized. Good people can do bad things, what matters is how they rectify it. She did the whole campus SA thing with Joe Biden, The Hunting Ground, and TIHTY before removing R. Kelly from ARTPOP while apologizing.

She took responsibility for it which is more than a lot of celebrities can say. I don't think it's fair to take that from her 

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3 hours ago, gagzus said:

People also forget that TMZ never actually had the full video they only had the behind the scenes docu from the BitTorrent collab that had SCENES from the video and the bts in it. People seem to forget the absolute fallacy of lies TMZ made up including a scene they claim where Kelly got her pregnant and she gave birth which I mean come ON that’s clearly not what happened. 

The scary thing is that the video exists and it will almost certainly leak one day. I hope she has a PR plan ready for it.

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4 hours ago, Ziggy said:

sweetie…you didn’t have to dig to know this about r Kelly lol idk if you’re young or not American but if you’re even younger than Gaga, it was known he was a pervert. The collab was part of an effort to relaunch his career. The full extent wouldn’t be known until later ofc but it’s very evident that she was feeling isolated and backed against a wall and made a very poor judgment call out of anger and fear. 
 

it is what it is. She apologized and has tried to move past it.

I believe she was a teen when he got his trial and the Aaliyah relation. If she wasn't following it closely on TV/ in tabloids then maybe she just heard the jokes like we all did.

Not affirming she didn't know but maybe she was sincere giving this itw saying he had been a victim of slander etc idk... 

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33 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Well, yes.

Well, no.

She said many, many times she used substances to cope with a myriad of things. Trauma, isolation, depression, physical pain, etc. She never said anyone forced her to use or drink. Maybe she was peer pressured in the beginning to party a bit but that's got nothing to do with R. Kelly showing up on her fourth album.

Addicts are responsible for themselves and their own actions. Even she agrees with that which is why she wrote a song that's an apology to her loved ones for her drug use.

And you'd think that would make her reconsider having R. Kelly on her song  

There is no excuse tbh. If there was, she wouldn't have apologized. Good people can do bad things, what matters is how they rectify it. She did the whole campus SA thing with Joe Biden, The Hunting Ground, and TIHTY before removing R. Kelly from ARTPOP while apologizing.

She took responsibility for it which is more than a lot of celebrities can say. I don't think it's fair to take that from her 

sorry but you are creating a character of Gaga that u believe she is the real one, but Stefani is not Gaga and Stefani was drugged, drunked and abused by Troy and a past members of her team. it is something very common behind the scenes with a lot of celebrities, example: Justin Bieber.

She's not as powerful and you think she is, her artistic freedom is not as we believe, Troy controlled her every step, she can take the bullet for R.Kelly.. but she had a whole team, a manager and f*cking interscope to stop it.. and none of them did.

And actually, all I said, that DJWS introduced them to each other and he influenced her decision that "it's all fine, he was never found guilty".

 

It's really easy to blame a woman, when there were a bunch of man in suit (and a random dj who still believes act 2 is real) who told her what to do and could have stop her.

 

Interscope and Troy cared so much to kill Burqa because she screamed too much and it freaked them out and ordered her to tone it down.. to the point that she literally leaked it HERE, but they didn't care much to stop DWUW with R Kelly..

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I wish I could get the image of Miley's vagina from that one Terry Richardson photo out of my brain, I can't unsee it. No shade to her ladybits, but god I wish I hadn't stumbled upon them.

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1 hour ago, PartySick said:

Well, yes.

I keep seeing this misconception and people keep forgetting that she herself revealed that she quit smoking for three full months because of the Marina Abramovic method she did. When she started smoking again she only did it on a "regular" basis without going overboard like before the ARTPOP era started.

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11 hours ago, River said:

Honestly, her own fans created this big buzz around Gaga x Terry, if only they stfu and let her deal with it quietly behind the scenes, nobody would have make such a fuss about it.

The fans wanted her to say something, to apologized, to be this perfect human being they created in their mind.

This. A lot of this had to do with the fans so worried she'd lose the Oscar because it was around awards season so they wanted her to SAY SOMETHING (like they still do about any stuff). But she also had just released Til It Happens To You and had been an advocate for sexual abuse survivors and the face of the Born This Way foundation so of course she was going to do and say something, it'd have been hypocritical to keep quiet about it and not explain herself.

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2 hours ago, PartySick said:

The scary thing is that the video exists and it will almost certainly leak one day. I hope she has a PR plan ready for it.

Besides the obvious with the collaborators… I don’t think by 2026 standards the video will be THAT controversial. I mean we live in the era of an incompetent celebrity who has no filter is running one of the biggest countries in the world. People can make literal AI ****ography of legit anyone and I doubt seeing Gaga humping R Kelly I her underwear for 20 seconds of our lives is gonna do much. 
 

I mean she already has done the best PR imo; not releasing the video, never working with Terry again, removing the song off streaming and press prints of the album in the future, never performing it again or using it at TMB encore not even the solo version and actively denouncing it and taking responsibility for it publicly. If the video leaks (which it never will lol) it’s not gonna be the worst imo

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10 hours ago, hELXIG said:

Also sidenote, remember it was Tara who convinced Gaga to bring R Kelly on the track because Tara was a megafan of his.

I could have sworn that Gaga wanted him on DWUW because he was controversial and DJWS went along with it? I never heard anything about Tara convincing her, although I could be wrong.

DWUW solo will always be the superior version we were robbed of

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4 hours ago, TheFrenchGuy said:

That's very interesting thank you for sharing that info ! 

Anytime. I just tend to not spill loads of tea I know on here anymore because one time I did it with the BTW album shoot and the unreleased videos for GH and Sß- and some people on here are (secretly albeit) in those circles and when someone posts or leaks stuff they track people down and actually do threaten them. (My ex bf got lashings off them because of the thread I made in 2020, so I’ve never done it since)

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7 minutes ago, artdoll said:

I could have sworn that Gaga wanted him on DWUW because he was controversial and DJWS went along with it? I never heard anything about Tara convincing her, although I could be wrong.

DWUW solo will always be the superior version we were robbed of

Nah Tara got her into his music on tour. R Kelly was working on new music in Chicago and his producer knew DJWS and he used that connection to get him on the track, Gaga called him the king of R&B back during the Z100 long play of the album and she wanted his approval of the song. And he wanted to be on it. (Most likely his team said it would be good for his image since Gaga was probably the biggest popstar in the world when she was on tour in 2012 and he was planning a comeback)

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32 minutes ago, gagzus said:

Gaga called him the king of R&B back during the Z100 long play of the album and she wanted his approval of the song. And he wanted to be on it.

I remember this

32 minutes ago, gagzus said:

Nah Tara got her into his music on tour. R Kelly was working on new music in Chicago and his producer knew DJWS and he used that connection to get him on the track,

But didn't know about this

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for informing me!