Economy 51,383 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 How is abra being the best song unpopular? Literally half the fan base thinks that Anyway mine would be that The Beast and Blade of Grass are among her best album tracks 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchGuy 2,366 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Sneaky Oliver said: That’s such a weird take because we have loved ballads like Speechless or Gypsy that are self-referential and not really relatable while BOG is ultimately a love / marriage song Speechless is not explicitly about her father, it's distanced enough to be universal. Gypsy is also about her life traveling the world, it's not just about Taylor. There also is a layer about her relationship with her fans so it includes us into that story. Blade of Grass is directly addressed at Michael and references their life together and the memories they share. It reads like a very personal love letter that we happen to have access to. A more apt comparison would be Is That Alright. That song is a love / marriage song but it could apply to any love story because its very universal. Meanwhile Blade of Grass is very directly about her relationship with Michael. I'm sure some people (including me) can find a way to relate to the sentiment behind it, but I can see why it wouldn't be as universal for that reason. It's just the way the story is told IMO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 22,568 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 hours ago, BELLYACHE said: LoveDrug is a decent pop song and the BELTING is oooooof so good, it’s cute and could’ve easily been a single and radio would’ve eat it up, not my top 5 tho. You just made me think that if it was released as a promo single prior to album release, I believe the fans would like it way more, I can also see it becoming a cute radio hit with a few live performances here and there 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 21,663 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, TheFrenchGuy said: Speechless is not explicitly about her father, it's distanced enough to be universal. Gypsy is also about her life traveling the world, it's not just about Taylor. There also is a layer about her relationship with her fans so it includes us into that story. Blade of Grass is directly addressed at Michael and references their life together and the memories they share. It reads like a very personal love letter that we happen to have access to. A more apt comparison would be Is That Alright. That song is a love / marriage song but it could apply to any love story because its very universal. Meanwhile Blade of Grass is very directly about her relationship with Michael. I'm sure some people (including me) can find a way to relate to the sentiment behind it, but I can see why it wouldn't be as universal for that reason. It's just the way the story is told IMO. I disagree. While the little specific references make it more personal, it doesn't mean you can't relate to it in your own way. I know I do. It's honestly a way better to storytell than having lyrics that are too vague. Otherwise it would mean that you can't be emotionally invested in books or movies and relate to the characters, which is not true. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 21,663 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Here's another one: while these are some of the best vocals in her discography, I feel that it's too much at times, there's way too much belting high notes, not enough diversity and definitely needs quieter and softer moments. Her other albums achieve that. And it goes with what I said about the tracklist being too long, it honestly feels exhausting before the album is over. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,523 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 BOG is a beautiful song and I listen to it all the time. I don't understand the hate that it gets 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchGuy 2,366 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 20 minutes ago, Oriane said: I disagree. While the little specific references make it more personal, it doesn't mean you can't relate to it in your own way. I know I do. It's honestly a way better to storytell than having lyrics that are too vague. Otherwise it would mean that you can't be emotionally invested in books or movies and relate to the characters, which is not true. I do too. Just a guess as too why some people dislike it so much compared to other ballads but maybe you're right. I see nothing wrong with it personally, I think it's a beautiful song 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 33,214 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, TheFrenchGuy said: Blade of Grass is a beautiful song, I just think it's too personal / self-referential to be relatable for most people. The hate it gets is completely unwarranted. Die with a smile fits perfectly on Mayhem. I closes the narrative beautifully and acts as the perfect "end credits song". I don't think it clashes with the rest at all. Blade of Grass or even Happy Mistake would not work as well as a closer. Killah is ****ing amazing but it's missing some guitars and the drums should go harder to be truly great. The SNL version is absolutely perfect and makes it one of my favorite songs of hers. LD, HBDYWM and DTC are great. They don't bloat the album at all. CSTH is overrated. Sounds like Fever and it doesn't bring much to the album. Agreed that BOG is an objectively well written song and also that its overly self-referential lyrics are why I don’t connect with it. The self-referential problem is part of the reason why Applause and a fair amount of ARTPOP falls flat for me. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid LePage 4,929 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 hours ago, NUTELLA said: Top 3 album for me, but all of these points are true Same!!!! It's up there with BTW and TFM for me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid LePage 4,929 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 hours ago, Melbourne Monster said: Chromatica and its tour were dark AF too That's what i mean, every single era including Joanne. Chromatica was more bold in its songwriting than Mayhem was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sucker punch 210 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 ok i was about to delete my whole comment but here i give my cents for me disease is a piece of art that stands on its own and that everything that came around it and after, got to overshadow it. it truly deserved so much more. it's the best lead single single BTW imho and as a song i would even choose it over a whole album (chr/jnn/tf). the music video is by far one of the best since G.U.Y.. then you have Abracadabra as the second track which for me it should've been the opener. another fking powerful song. the MAYHEM BALL version literally DEVOURS everything ever made . HBDYWM and Blade of Grass are chops. i removed them from the tracklist. we have KFL and CSTH instead who are so superior in all the levels. the photoshoot was kinda meh, she has yet to top the chromatica one. it needs more mv and singles too but time is passing faster as ever and it seems kinda late tho idk ... talk is cheap but costs a lot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 28,019 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Ooooo I forgot to say that Don’t Call Tonight is single material, much more than How Bad and Shadow 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterJoannster 3,642 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Any song other than TDD deserves a video more. I know it has a fair amount of people who think it’s not excellent, but not many who think it’s the worst thing on Mayhem (like I do). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 28,019 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Also, not an opinion but more of a reminder: Fans love to say that she added DWAS to the album because it was a huge hit. But that is not entirely true. It was already a massive smash when Gaga confirmed it wasn’t on the album. They decided to add it when they saw Disease underperform. For whatever reason, it seems they were convinced Disease would smash. Interscope gave it like the biggest radio boost of Gaga’s career and thought releasing the video after a couple days would benefit the song. And then the song fell free without even peaking high and Gaga essentially disappeared from the public eye for three months, months during which she revealed DWAS would be on the album. And then she restarted the era with Abra. But without the strong radio push Disease had. We are lucky that things turned out the way they did, but Interscope must’ve been very unsure of MAYHEM’s fate after Disease. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prigari 942 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) I can’t listen BoG without thinking about So Am I by Ava Max the album feels way more cohesive with the bonus tracks GoE production is one of the best from her discography Disease flop is a real tragedy Edited January 9 by Prigari 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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