Head Empty 26,967 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 18 minutes ago, Ayesha Erotica said: Most GagaDaily users are very, very bad at realistically analyzing geopolitics. I'm mostly just reading this thread and don't really have anything meaningful to contribute but this quote is hilarious out of context 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: Tbf, I doubt any leader would help orchestrate a coup without securing some kind of benefit for their own country. What Trump is doing here is, unfortunately, just classic US LATAM foreign policy. Agreed if another Nation did it they probably wouldnt be any better. But doesnt change the reality that its not for good motives regardless of which Country did it And because its the US which is still so powerful on the world stage despite recent declines, good luck to Venezuela ever breaking free now. They are gonna be there to stay 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,680 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, Economy said: Agreed if another Nation did it they probably wouldnt be any better. But doesnt change the reality that its not for good motives regardless of which Country did it And because its the US which is still so powerful on the world stage despite recent declines, good luck to Venezuela ever breaking free now. They are gonna be there to stay Yeah, whatever government comes out of this regime change is going to be economically rigged in favor of US imports on oil and every other export from Venezuela. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Again, the propaganda that "Venezuelans want this" is just that: propaganda. Venezuelans in Venezuela (and not propagandized Americans who have right-wing Venezuelan parents) are protesting this: https://x.com/elenadequito/status/2007460034532327576?s=46 https://x.com/roilopezrivas/status/2007466435329634479?s=46 https://x.com/roqchams/status/2007483469090418689?s=46 https://x.com/elcuartoroj0/status/2007441355920839116?s=46 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemoMyName 2,194 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Sure, but is it not fair to say that this is trading one form of despotism for another? 5 minutes ago, Economy said: Its just too bad Trump didnt orchestrate this as a favour to the Venezuelan people and will now be off on its merry way The US will now stay and no doubt wanna dictate terms and control. And the US will be harder to get rid of than a human dictator Edit: I get what ur saying about why celebrate tho That's why is a Evil vs Evil situation: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 53 minutes ago, Dojo said: can you explain us in detail, why are they celebrating? Celebrating Maduro is out. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 15,996 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I thought trump was suppose to be anti war & the peace president ? Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 24,955 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 24 minutes ago, Ayesha Erotica said: Most of you said it is just a crazy rumor without evidence and you ridiculed Precht. But Precht was right. I was right. It was a rumour without evidence and it was a widely discredited pseudo academic speaking in theoreticals in a field he has no qualification in. We also still have zero evidence that Trump & Putin agreed to split Venezuela/Ukraine, and realistically although the direction of travel now supports a potential split deal - Trump is still pushing to get US economic control of Ukrainian resources which would go against you and Precht. The gays know how to party Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 24,955 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, Othon said: Again, the propaganda that "Venezuelans want this" is just that: propaganda. Venezuelans in Venezuela (and not propagandized Americans who have right-wing Venezuelan parents) are protesting this: https://x.com/elenadequito/status/2007460034532327576?s=46 https://x.com/roilopezrivas/status/2007466435329634479?s=46 https://x.com/roqchams/status/2007483469090418689?s=46 https://x.com/elcuartoroj0/status/2007441355920839116?s=46 It's propaganda to pretend there aren't competing camps within Venezuela. There are absolutely native Venezuelans who oppose Maduro and support the opposition. There are absolutely native Venezuelans who are opposed to the Americans & opposition. Both are true. The gays know how to party 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemoMyName 2,194 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Othon said: (and not propagandized Americans who have right-wing Venezuelan parents) wtf are you talking about?? Are you really invalidating what Venezuelans that left the country say by calling them propagandized?? That's low. There's even an immigrant in this thread and you dare to say that. You are basically acting like the meme: If don't agree with my views you are right-wing. And that attitude causes a lot of rejection, more than any propaganda. Edited January 3 by NemoMyName 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Bronco said: It's propaganda to pretend there aren't competing camps within Venezuela. There are absolutely native Venezuelans who oppose Maduro and support the opposition. There are absolutely native Venezuelans who are opposed to the Americans & opposition. Both are true. No one is saying, at all, that there aren’t right-wing Venezuelans who oppose Maduro. There are. The blanket statements from posters on here saying “Venezuela is happy about this, Americans stop complaining” is the propaganda I’m criticizing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 24,955 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 15 minutes ago, Economy said: They may have the most oil in total reserves but they dont contain the highest profit potential. Honestly, profit becomes irrelevant when the goal is domestic control of a resource. This is realistically, the only proven oil reserve that the US could ensure complete control over at effectively minimal risk of drawn out conflict (Latin Am nations realistically had no hard defensive alliances in place). The only other option is Iran, and they're too well connected to Russia & China to ensure an easy or sustainable take over. The gays know how to party 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 My Venezuelan friend is celebrating Trump said the US would run Venezuela until a transition is made. Look, I understand this man being out is a cause for celebration, but to cheer on US imperialism after DOZENS of example of how things turn out is..... interesting. I try not to judge so hard because I know these people have suffered but... it's so hard to hold my tongue. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NemoMyName said: That's why is a Evil vs Evil situation: I do hope it turns out better than before for your Country tho Edited January 3 by Economy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemoMyName 2,194 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Economy said: I do hope it turns out better than before for your Country tho I'm not from Venezuela, I'm from Chile and we recieved a lot of immigration for there, some of my coworkers are from there and told me why they left and how they help their families from outside. And yes, they are really happy, they know it's not a black and white thing and it doesn't mean everything will be perfect onwards, but they feel comforted by the fact Maduro was captured. 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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