monketsharona 86,786 Posted Wednesday at 12:21 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 12:21 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, River said: LG L8 2028 If 2028 let's be honest that definitely means that's lying about her being in a new creative peak of her career and that the music she doing right now trully doesnrt deserve to be even mentioned in interviews Edited Wednesday at 12:24 PM by monketsharona Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,835 Posted Wednesday at 12:59 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:59 PM (edited) So is anyone else kind of not wanting to board this train yet? I'm happy to hear she's working on music but I'm not ready to leave the Mayhem era - and I also don't want her to rush into a new 'vibe' or aesthetic that risks moving on from an era that shouldn't become the 'past' any time soon. I'd be very happy to get LG8 in 2027, two years on from Mayhem. I miss the two year cycle between album releases that artists used to stick to. Anything more than that feels dragged out but anything less than it feels a bit rushed and unnecessary. I think hunger needs to build from fans before a new album is released and if we're being honest, we're not THAT hungry for it right now - and I don't will be until 2027. Edited Wednesday at 01:00 PM by OMonster subtext / fantasy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 16,407 Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM (edited) 53 minutes ago, OMonster said: So is anyone else kind of not wanting to board this train yet? I'm happy to hear she's working on music but I'm not ready to leave the Mayhem era - and I also don't want her to rush into a new 'vibe' or aesthetic that risks moving on from an era that shouldn't become the 'past' any time soon. I'd be very happy to get LG8 in 2027, two years on from Mayhem. I miss the two year cycle between album releases that artists used to stick to. Anything more than that feels dragged out but anything less than it feels a bit rushed and unnecessary. I think hunger needs to build from fans before a new album is released and if we're being honest, we're not THAT hungry for it right now - and I don't will be until 2027. I think sadly because of the streaming era an “album era” essentially becomes over when the album drops. Because once the album is online there’s no need for singles or anything again. I think we were lucky enough to get TDD just because of Wednesday otherwise I doubt she’d have another single from Mayhem at all. You don’t even need to promote songs to promote a tour anymore, because people like Gaga are so big they sell out pretty much 99% of the time. I think people forget that because it was so normal in the 90s/2000s, tours were originally invented to recoup money lost on album sales vs production and promotional costs, and singles and music videos were invented to promote upcoming albums and tours that were underselling in corporate estimates. Pre-ordering literally became a way for labels to estimate how much money they would invest in an artists album Now because of streaming a lot of that is not necessary. If Gaga wants to (or should I say if her label wants her to) tour less and make money, she’d had to probably release an album or at least a few singles every year to sustain some money. (Which is why she’s smart to have her finger in so many pies, some we probably don’t even know about since we only found out recently from Michael in an interview she’s invested in science based stuff, and before that she was working politically behind the scenes during the Obama administration but we didn’t find out till like 10 years later) Most legacy acts nowadays only tour because of demand or needing money Edited Wednesday at 01:54 PM by gagzus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodekid 28,966 Posted Wednesday at 02:02 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:02 PM And today, during the Harlequin special, when Gaga drops the mic and walks off stage as Happy Mistake ends, and suddenly a synth pop instrumental with a murmured voice starts playing as she does a Michael Jackson spin, and the screen start glitching and we see Total Mayhem displayed on screen in a bold Helvetica Font, and then it all goes black, and we spend the next 5 months wondering wether she said moon or night, then ****ing what? Long Live Gretchen 1 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,835 Posted Wednesday at 02:03 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:03 PM 5 minutes ago, gagzus said: I think sadly because of the streaming era an “album era” essentially becomes over when the album drops. Because once the album is online there’s no need for singles or anything again. I think we were lucky enough to get TDD just because of Wednesday otherwise I doubt she’d have another single from Mayhem at all. You don’t even need to promote songs to promote a tour anymore, because people like Gaga are so big they sell out pretty much 99% of the time. I think people forget that because it was so normal in the 90s/2000s, tours were originally invented to recoup money lost on album sales vs production and promotional costs, and singles and music videos were invented to promote upcoming albums and tours that were underselling in corporate estimates. Pre-ordering literally became a way for labels to estimate how much money they would invest in an artists album Now because of streaming a lot of that is not necessary I don't really agree with this - Mayhem dropped in March and we're still very much in the Mayhem era and not because of The Dead Dance. We're in it because of the tour and because it's her most recent album and she's still 'living' its vibe. I don't think the era dies when singles aren't released. Like you say, because of streaming, every song is kind of a single nowadays in that anyone can listen to it without having to buy or listen to the full album, which is why lots of non-singles still have their 'moment' on social media, primarily. On a secondary note, I think tours do still exist primarily to make an artist (more) profitable for a record label (and obviously to make money for the artist) because the cost of producing and promoting an album is not massively exceeded (if at all) by the money generated from album sales and streams. The 'selling of music' is actually the least profitable part of being a pop artist in 2025, hence the need to tour. So I guess I associate an era to a tour somewhat, especially when tour performances kind of replace music videos. But, even then, I think we'll still be in the Mayhem era when the tour finishes because of its recency. It will be interesting (and kind of sad) to experience an era without a tour, which we'd definitely get for LG8 if it really does come next year. Without a tour, an era would be far less interesting because there would be fewer opportunities for Gaga to bring to life her vision for it when big TV performances no longer really exist. subtext / fantasy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 16,407 Posted Wednesday at 03:21 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:21 PM 1 hour ago, OMonster said: I don't really agree with this - Mayhem dropped in March and we're still very much in the Mayhem era and not because of The Dead Dance. We're in it because of the tour and because it's her most recent album and she's still 'living' its vibe. I don't think the era dies when singles aren't released. Like you say, because of streaming, every song is kind of a single nowadays in that anyone can listen to it without having to buy or listen to the full album, which is why lots of non-singles still have their 'moment' on social media, primarily. On a secondary note, I think tours do still exist primarily to make an artist (more) profitable for a record label (and obviously to make money for the artist) because the cost of producing and promoting an album is not massively exceeded (if at all) by the money generated from album sales and streams. The 'selling of music' is actually the least profitable part of being a pop artist in 2025, hence the need to tour. So I guess I associate an era to a tour somewhat, especially when tour performances kind of replace music videos. But, even then, I think we'll still be in the Mayhem era when the tour finishes because of its recency. It will be interesting (and kind of sad) to experience an era without a tour, which we'd definitely get for LG8 if it really does come next year. Without a tour, an era would be far less interesting because there would be fewer opportunities for Gaga to bring to life her vision for it when big TV performances no longer really exist. Although I agree a tour is still part of an era now, back in the day an era was all the promo and outfits and interviews and tv performances and radio appearances between the lead single and the tour starting. Gaga used to have an entire year sometimes before she went on tour after she had an already established era in the run up to said tour. Born This Way was probably the last full fledged era we got, but Joanne was still pretty much an era in its own way. But none of her projects after 2016 have had them imo. Yeah we have “eras” still but I feel like the vibe of a traditional era now ends the second an album drops. Because artists don’t need singles or many interviews or tv performances. There’s a reason Gaga hasn’t released more than 2 official singles per era since like 2011 for example. Streaming stopped the need for promotion. And to me personally an era is the promotion of a concept or idea for the album. Gone are the days of artists like Britney Spears who was in interviews, performances, commercials and more to promote an album. Gaga and Katy were the last generation of artists to have eras in the early 2010s I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 86,786 Posted Wednesday at 03:34 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 03:34 PM 2 hours ago, OMonster said: So is anyone else kind of not wanting to board this train yet? I'm happy to hear she's working on music but I'm not ready to leave the Mayhem era - and I also don't want her to rush into a new 'vibe' or aesthetic that risks moving on from an era that shouldn't become the 'past' any time soon. I'd be very happy to get LG8 in 2027, two years on from Mayhem. I miss the two year cycle between album releases that artists used to stick to. Anything more than that feels dragged out but anything less than it feels a bit rushed and unnecessary. I think hunger needs to build from fans before a new album is released and if we're being honest, we're not THAT hungry for it right now - and I don't will be until 2027. MAYHEM will wrap on April anyway tbh She did far enough iconic things in MAYHEM era for it to stick as one of the biggest eras in her career Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMonster 14,835 Posted Wednesday at 03:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:40 PM 17 minutes ago, gagzus said: Although I agree a tour is still part of an era now, back in the day an era was all the promo and outfits and interviews and tv performances and radio appearances between the lead single and the tour starting. Gaga used to have an entire year sometimes before she went on tour after she had an already established era in the run up to said tour. Born This Way was probably the last full fledged era we got, but Joanne was still pretty much an era in its own way. But none of her projects after 2016 have had them imo. Yeah we have “eras” still but I feel like the vibe of a traditional era now ends the second an album drops. Because artists don’t need singles or many interviews or tv performances. There’s a reason Gaga hasn’t released more than 2 official singles per era since like 2011 for example. Streaming stopped the need for promotion. And to me personally an era is the promotion of a concept or idea for the album. Gone are the days of artists like Britney Spears who was in interviews, performances, commercials and more to promote an album. Gaga and Katy were the last generation of artists to have eras in the early 2010s I guess. Oh yeah eras are definitely smaller now and confined to tours + social media activity (with a few TV interview spots) but I think they still exist. I think the Mayhem era is a really distinct one in Gaga's career. subtext / fantasy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 16,407 Posted Wednesday at 03:59 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:59 PM 18 minutes ago, OMonster said: Oh yeah eras are definitely smaller now and confined to tours + social media activity (with a few TV interview spots) but I think they still exist. I think the Mayhem era is a really distinct one in Gaga's career. Oh dont get me wrong I’m really enjoying the era (it works for me now as a full blown adult with a busy life if you get me), I just grew up with like artists who had ERAS so I’m dying for someone to bring them back 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,953 Posted Thursday at 04:03 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:03 AM I have a strong feeling this is going to be a natural continuation of Mayhem, not necessarily in sound/aesthetic, but as a successor in spirit (if that makes sense?)... Basically, I don't think this album is going to be tied down to just one sound (so this won't be her rock album or disco album or house album or ballads album), but rather another record in the same vein as Mayhem that represents who Lady Gaga is to, well, Gaga. I hope we get more Killah's though Such a gem, such a classic 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 31,800 Posted Thursday at 04:07 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:07 AM 21 hours ago, ALGAYDO said: Their vocals, production, and songwriting is so different, I fear it’d be a mess And it’d be because of the weak link in the chain (and we all know who that is) We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevthepaparazzo 1,096 Posted Thursday at 07:31 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:31 AM Wait why is this under news and not rumour? @NUTELLA loves me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 86,786 Posted Thursday at 09:57 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 09:57 AM 2 hours ago, zevthepaparazzo said: Wait why is this under news and not rumour? The LG7 thread was under news, no problem for this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvitr 1,247 Posted Thursday at 12:23 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:23 PM THEORY TIME Mayhem era might wrap around in April… In the Harlequin section before she plays That’s Life, there are lyrics from Gagas version ” I’m gonna change their tune, when I’m back in june” Frank Sinatras original lyrics are ”that” instead of ”their”. Yes yes, rewritten for the film, and Harlequin character / album. But the significance to the change and use those lyrics… and the choice to show those lyrics before the That’s life act…. SHE MIGHT BE TEASING. She’ll change our tune once again If she’ll actually be back on top in June, with a new album. Total Mayhem or LG8 or another project, a single might come in the middle of May. Friday May 15th ”My fans thinks everything is cryptic” So act ii will come LG8 out soon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevthepaparazzo 1,096 Posted Friday at 12:32 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:32 AM 14 hours ago, monketsharona said: The LG7 thread was under news, no problem for this. oh okii @NUTELLA loves me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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