llemesm 1,713 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Disclaimer: This is just my personal opinion, based on how I experience both albums today. I’ve been revisiting Gaga’s discography lately — album by album, start to finish — and something surprised me. ARTPOP, the album everyone loved to drag back in the day, actually aged… pretty decently. It’s not Gaga’s best, and I’m not even sure it’s a “good” album in the traditional sense, but it is fun. It’s loud, chaotic, and honestly? Still enjoyable. The beats hit, the lyrics are wild, and as a whole it makes it easy to listen all the way through. Chromatica, though... The minute I hit track 6 (“Fun Tonight”), I’m already feeling drained. I don’t know if it’s the sound, the emotional weight, or just how dense the whole atmosphere gets, but it becomes overwhelming fast. And that’s the strange part: when it came out, I loved Chromatica — the visuals, the colors, the world-building, the videos, everything. I listened to it nonstop and have a lot of affection for that era. But today? As a full-album experience, it hasn’t aged as well. It feels heavier, more exhausting, and harder to sit through in one go. So honestly, if we’re talking about which album ages better when you listen from beginning to end? ARTPOP wins. What do you think — ARTPOP or Chromatica? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsamars 4,083 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Chromatica was dead on arrival let alone aging at all 1 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanna shintuyu 11,116 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I only find ¼ of Chromatica to even be listenable. Still love most of ARTPOP. I think Chromatica's visuals are better and way more cohesive. Sometimes I wonder if the positive reception to the music was a trauma response though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 27,198 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I’ve never liked Chromatica but tbh I think it did age pretty well ARTPOP did as well, which is actually more impressive to me because it was loud and daring So I voted for ARTPOP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 13,757 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Both have aged poorly- one is a hot mess, the other is boring. I don't like ARTPOP, but I reach for that album before Chromatica. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 27,198 Posted 56 minutes ago Share Posted 56 minutes ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: Both have aged poorly- one is a hot mess, the other is boring. Born This Way is the definition of “hot mess” and it’s still her best album By the way, now that I think about it, I’m amazed that Interscope/UMG allowed her to put that record out. The GP was getting really tired of Gaga, her antics and political implication, and Born This Way was against everything the GP wanted from her, whether it’s sonically, thematically or visually And they still managed to make it a success Edited 48 minutes ago by AVeryGagaHolyDick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 31,601 Posted 53 minutes ago Share Posted 53 minutes ago Well she clearly put a lot of heart and soul into ARTPOP. She forced herself to make Chromatica. I still think Chromatica clears ARTPOP tho in terms of lyricism (more personal lyrics) and vocals. I don’t think anything from ARTPOP can touch Replay or 911… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 13,757 Posted 49 minutes ago Share Posted 49 minutes ago Just now, AVeryGagaHolyDick said: Born This Way is the definition of “hot mess” and it’s still her best album TFM is her best album imo... lean, mean, no skips. Whereas BTW is her most "iconic" album/era (understandably so, given cultural context). But song-for-song, TFM is superior. Because you're right- BTW veers into hot mess-territory on a few tracks 👀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,004 Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago (edited) I think ARTPOP is the only album where Gaga is fully unmasked and herself artistically. You can even see ARTPOP in her early work like The Fame but she was hiding it. Only people who viewed Gaga as a basic female blonde pop star did not enjoy the album. ARTPOP is one of my favorite albums of all time and my favorite from Gaga. Edited 46 minutes ago by faysalaaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 29,541 Posted 43 minutes ago Share Posted 43 minutes ago 1 minute ago, faysalaaa said: I think ARTPOP is the only album where Gaga is herself and unmasked. You can see ARTPOP even in her early work on The Fame. Only people who viewed Gaga as a basic female blonde pop star did not enjoy the album. ARTPOP is one of my favorite albums of all time and my favorite from Gaga. Eh, I think BTW and MAYHEM are far more quintessential Gaga than ARTPOP. ARTPOP is bloated with pretense and often lacking in substance/innovation (in spite of its marketing and title), whereas I think BTW and MAYHEM are both sonically exciting, sincere, reflect her range as an artist better, and are also just more consistent on a track by track basis. Btw, for what it’s worth, Gaga was well-beyond “basic blonde female pop star” by the time ARTPOP came out and the only record where that archetype even really applies (on a surface level at that) is TF. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 29,541 Posted 42 minutes ago Share Posted 42 minutes ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: TFM is her best album imo... lean, mean, no skips. Whereas BTW is her most "iconic" album/era (understandably so, given cultural context). But song-for-song, TFM is superior. Because you're right- BTW veers into hot mess-territory on a few tracks 👀 No skips and yet SHICD is on it. Huh… I love TFM (top three for me for sure), but I’d honestly rather listen to the “skips” on BTW than the weaker tracks on TFM. Edited 41 minutes ago by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 13,970 Posted 38 minutes ago Share Posted 38 minutes ago Chromatica suffers because of its production and instrumentals. Like you can absolutely mix the lyricisim of Chromatica with House music, but you can't restrain the music. You need to let the house tracks do what house music does best and actually invoke that sense of euphoria. Sadly, Chromatica instrumentals feel like they're dogs chained up by Bloodpop and every time they attempt to run wild they get yanked back into the kennel. It stops Chromatica landing how it was intended and fully representing that dancing through the pain feeling. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 29,541 Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago Both have aged somewhat poorly in different ways, imo (in part because I don’t think either sounded incredibly fresh upon arrival). I think the highs on ARTPOP are higher than the highs on Chromatica, but I think Chromatica is more consistent and a lot of the lows on ARTPOP are songs that I basically never listen to outside of the context of the album. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 29,541 Posted 34 minutes ago Share Posted 34 minutes ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bronco said: Chromatica suffers because of its production and instrumentals. Like you can absolutely mix the lyricisim of Chromatica with House music, but you can't restrain the music. You need to let the house tracks do what house music does best and actually invoke that sense of euphoria. Sadly, Chromatica instrumentals feel like they're dogs chained up by Bloodpop and every time they attempt to run wild they get yanked back into the kennel. It stops Chromatica landing how it was intended and fully representing that dancing through the pain feeling. 100%. FWIW, I honestly think if Chromatica were more bombastic production-wise, I’d prefer it to ARTPOP. I feel that Chromatica says everything Gaga wanted to say on ARTPOP without all the sloppy metaphors. Edited 31 minutes ago by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 13,970 Posted 29 minutes ago Share Posted 29 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: 100%. FWIW, I honestly think if Chromatica were more bombastic production-wise, I’d prefer it to ARTPOP. Honestly, I think if the production had more life to it we'd have talked about that album the way we did about Mayhem on release. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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