Why did Gaga include Dancin' In Circles in Joanne album?

[Chromanne 1,670]

Dancin' In Circles is one of my favourites from the Joanne album and it literally has one of the best outros in Gaga's entire discography.

But I still wonder that why a song about m@stu®bation is a part of Joanne, an album that is a tribute to her deceased aunt and was supposedly created to heal her still mourning father.

Most importantly, what would Joanne herself think about this song if she were to listen to this album that is a tribute to her? Would she confront her niece Stefani about it if she were to meet her one day?

[ActualPatient 1,908]

1 minute ago, Chromanne said:

I still wonder that why a song about m@stu®bation is a part of Joanne, an album that is a tribute to her deceased aunt and was supposedly created to heal her still mourning father.

help how do i delete someone else's post,

im so uncomfortable lmao

[high culture 2,195]

Pretty sure most people j*rk off even if silently in the other room from family ... so it really does fit. 

[gagzus 16,146]

It’s actually a personal album and only the title track relates to Joanne. Joanne was the first song she wrote when Mark asked her what she had to write about; everything else is about her career and personal life and DIC is just about Taylor really.

The album is dedicated to her, but the only song about her is the title track.

Edited 16 hours ago by gagzus

[Prigari 904]

Joanne is her second name and the album is about her raw self so it fit 

[Ladle Ghoulash 28,194]

I think saying the album is strictly dedicated to her deceased aunt is reductive. The album, imo, uses the way the loss of Joanne affected her family, her father, and her specifically to examine where Gaga was emotionally at that time in her life and also was a gateway for her to look at her life from a different angle (who would I be right now if I weren’t famous?). If we consider it strictly as being dedicated to her aunt, it’s pretty easy to see most of the album isn’t really directly about her, but rather about both the way the trauma effected Gaga individually, indirectly through her relationship with her father and the way that trauma shaped her future relationships, and the way Gaga as an adult is trying to reconcile and mend those feelings, experiences, and aspects of her life. 

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[Chromanne 1,670]

7 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I think saying the album is strictly dedicated to her deceased aunt is reductive.

The entire album may not be about her aunt. But, Gaga herself has said that she recorded the album hoping that it would heal her mourning father. In what way would Dancin' In Circles heal her father? Through its catchiness I guess?

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[gagzus 16,146]

1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I think saying the album is strictly dedicated to her deceased aunt is reductive. The album, imo, uses the way the loss of Joanne affected her family, her father, and her specifically to examine where Gaga was emotionally at that time in her life and also was a gateway for her to look at her life from a different angle (who would I be right now if I weren’t famous?). If we consider it strictly as being dedicated to her aunt, most of the album isn’t really directly about her, but rather about both the way the trauma effected Gaga individually, indirectly through her relationship with her father and the way that trauma shaped her future relationships, and the way Gaga as an adult is trying to reconcile and mend those feelings, experiences, and aspects of her life. 

Exactly this, Joanne is essentially her “come of age” record when she finally stopped being a young woman and became an adult and started realising what she wanted to make sonically and how she wanted to write. It’s essentially the younger (albeit more stubborn) version of Mayhem.
 

We have songs like Diamond Heart about the time she was basically in the seedy underbelly of NYC but at the core of the gogo dancing, the drug taking, the partying she was a good person. A-yo is a direct response to the hate she got for ARTPOP imo and how she’s saying “I can’t wait for you to eat your words”, Perfect Illusion, DIC and Million Reasons are about 3 stages of her relationship with Taylor “peak, breakdown and post revelation”. Songs like Come to Mama, Just Another Day and Angel Down are about Gaga’s personality at the age in which she wrote it about her world views and her longing for a simple life. Grigio Girls is obviously about her girlfriends rallying around each other and Sonja in particular. And of course Joanne is about her dad and what she felt like he would’ve said to her if he could see her one more time.

[dynamite 60,914]

15 minutes ago, high culture said:

Pretty sure most people j*rk off even if silently in the other room from family ... so it really does fit. 

Sometimes in the same room! 

[Ladle Ghoulash 28,194]

4 minutes ago, Chromanne said:

The entire album may not be about her aunt. But, Gaga herself has said that she recorded the album hoping that it would heal her mourning father. In what way would Dancin' In Circles heal her father? Through its catchiness I guess?

I love that you quoted this and then ignored everything else that I wrote which would directly address what I think the album is.

[gagzus 16,146]

1 minute ago, Chromanne said:

The entire album may not be about her aunt. But, Gaga herself has said that she recorded the album hoping that it would heal her mourning father. In what way Dancin' In Circles would heal her father? Through its catchiness I guess?

I feel like everyone is so pedantic about this subject, she always says things that turn out to be false or broken though.
 

The Fame isn’t about Fame or internal fame it’s legit her attempt at making a hit record about love, sex, money and everything atypical pop theme wise, TFM monster theory falls flat when half the songs have the same theme of sex and love, Born This Way isn’t strictly about her fans and the LGBT community as most the songs are about herself and Luc Carl bar the title track. ARTPOP isn’t anything about art REALLY it’s just a record she couldn’t navigate because her record company was pushing for another The Fame/Monster dance record after the reception to Born This Way but she wanted to not repeat herself and was rebellious. It was supposed to be a “safe” album. Chromatica has no theme or sense to it the original title of “Free Woman” makes more sense to me. She just tacked on a theme and story to make herself interested in music she was essentially forced to make to a degree.

Mayhem is really the only album where what she’s said about it makes sense, that it’s her finally finding her own way and making music that feels like a combination of all her old sounds and themes.

[Chromanne 1,670]

2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I love that you quoted this and then ignored everything else that I wrote which would directly address what I think the album is.

Well I do understand that the album is more about Stefani Joanne Germanotta, rather than just Joanne Germanotta.

[Ladle Ghoulash 28,194]

1 minute ago, Chromanne said:

Well I do understand that the album is more about Stefani Joanne Germanotta, rather than just Joanne Germanotta.

But you just wanted to keep saying “why she flicking the bean in front of dad,” more or less, yeah?

Edited 16 hours ago by Ladle Ghoulash

[LG2008 5,703]

I see Joanne as an album about feminism. She dedicated that album to her aunt and family and also talks about loss, trauma, injustice, etc but it is primarily a feminist album, the dead aunt thing just brought more attention as she was talking more about that  I think that if you see this project as a work about girl friendship, growth and feminism, DIC being included in the tracklist makes more sense and it's a bop  I still think it's one of the weirdest choruses she's ever done but I love it 

Edited 16 hours ago by LG2008

[Decodekid 28,596]

There can be a 100 rose toys in a room and all 100 of them can run out of battery, but it only takes one finger to flick the bean, and that’s all you need to rub the pain away