Ladle Ghoulash 47,333 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 (edited) 51 minutes ago, ANVEEROY said: Ok, I have another question, imagine its Michael, (god forbid anything happens to Gaga) - someone cosplaying Michael after publicly assassinating Gaga; Michael with blood, clothes and stuff - and then some years later someone cosplaying Michael - will that be accepted, and regarded as cunty? Hey, I am asking questions, nothing else, I am trying to understand the whole situation. I mean, if there was something iconic about Michael’s look, the answer could be yes. Like it or not, unfortunately when you’re a public figure, there are certain things about your life that enter the canon of public iconography and people play with them. But I also think another dimension to this is the fact that that Jackie O was not only a fashion icon, but literally insisted on wearing the Chanel suit covered in blood after JFK’s assassination, which is both incredibly powerful and, from a media perspective, is somewhat camp in hindsight so it’s not as if it’s a deeply private moment being exploited, but rather a recreation of a very public statement made by Jackie O. Edited October 31, 2025 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
princedeeblebleble 3,234 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 20 minutes ago, Taumaturg0 said: O there's a whole story about JFKs funeral too. If you like that kind of stuff, check Askamortician on youtube Thats such an insane video essay, the **** that happened AFTER the shooting were even more insane I've watched it a few times and every time it just shocks me what an utter shitfesr the entire situation was. OT; idk I love the look, like I'd never think about such a costume and its insanely brilliant in a ****ed up campy way but I'm also not phased by much lately, the only things that shocks and/or offends me would be violence againts animals and the disabled/very young/old people who can't really fens for themselves 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 47,333 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 (edited) 5 hours ago, TheFrenchGuy said: To be fair his movies were even more subversive in his time. Reminds me I need to watch serial mom again geez It’s true, but while a lot of queer people today claim to love the subversiveness of his films, I think subversion is easier to stomach in hindsight and I think a lot of his so-called contemporary fans would struggle with a contemporary equivalent of his work. Edited November 1, 2025 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 22,278 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: It’s true, but while a lot of queer people today claim to love the subversiveness of his films, I think subversion is easier to stomach in hindsight and I think a lot of his so-called contemporary fans would struggle with the contemporary equivalent of his work. Seeing this a lot with the current dragula season where people are pearl clutching at the idea drag queens drink and snort. The gays know how to party 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchGuy 5,018 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: It’s true, but while a lot of queer people today claim to love the subversiveness of his films, I think subversion is easier to stomach in hindsight and I think a lot of his so-called contemporary fans would struggle with the contemporary equivalent of his work. I think the performative counterculture gays would eat it up and post about it on TikTok for clout, while completely missing the point lol Who do you think the contemporary equivalent would be? I can’t think of anyone Just now, Bronco said: Seeing this a lot with the current dragula season where people are pearl clutching at the idea drag queens drink and snort. Imagine being offended by drugs while watching a show were people literally have to staple themselves and drink blended trash to stay in the competition 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenWonder 4,706 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 I love gallows humor, so I think this is hysterical. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 20,287 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 hour ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: mean, if there was something iconic about Michael’s look, the answer could be yes. Michael reading this thread like 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nswain1110 3,117 Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 It's both terrible and fantastic all at once. And it's certainly commentary on the absurdity of the current political climate and state of the world. I live. Give 'em hell Julia!!! Follow me on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/natethetrailhunter/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 47,333 Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 1 hour ago, TheFrenchGuy said: I think the performative counterculture gays would eat it up and post about it on TikTok for clout, while completely missing the point lol Who do you think the contemporary equivalent would be? I can’t think of anyone Imagine being offended by drugs while watching a show were people literally have to staple themselves and drink blended trash to stay in the competition I’m not necessarily sure we have a contemporary equivalent to John Waters. There are some drag queens that push the envelope in a similar way, but not on the same scale. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,570 Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 I love a bloody Jackie costume. Inside my head I have the best time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concertaholic 6,563 Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 This is so campy and horror coded, perfect for Halloween… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackaroo 2,530 Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 i hate gay Halloween cos wtf do u mean ur Jackie Kennedy after JFK assassination is she lowkey paying tribute to Government Hooker? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,113 Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 7 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: I fear the children would not survive John Waters if his films were made today one of my life achievements is catching his attention behind the stage at a festival and having him wave back at me in the crowd i also have several signed items from him which yall can swoop at Atomic Books in Baltimore (its also the only place he personally picks up fan mail from) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,299 Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 But we all know this is done on purpose to make people react this way, we all know it, yet we continue engaging and reacting lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 42,006 Posted November 1, 2025 Share Posted November 1, 2025 This is kinda tacky but works for a Halloween costume if you have that dark humor to see the satire, especially with the explanation of Jackie wanting the world to see her with all of that. And this works because it’s Julia aka no one cares about. If this were someone like Taylor, Billie, Sabrina idk this would be making headlines and offended people would come in big numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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