Taylor Swift Under Fire for N*zi Symbolism

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Silly girl, always running around spreading her nazi agendas everywhere

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This is a ridiculous nothing burger. Get real for ****s sake. 

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14 hours ago, Divine said:

They hate Taylor Swift so much but they use her to farm reputation points I fear. 

I don’t like her new album, and I get the backlash, but this issue is nonsense. 

I don't need reputation points on a website for validation  if I was trying to do that I'd just post threads of attractive men

14 hours ago, Teletubby said:

also didn't you complain that we had too many threads about Taylor yesterday?

Yeah but that thread made me realize I can be petty 

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5 minutes ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

I don't need reputation points on a website for validation  if I was trying to do that I'd just post threads of attractive men

Yeah but that thread made me realize I can be petty 

Ngl I’m glad you’ve come to the dark side. I remember when you flamed me for shitting on Ava Max, but welcome to the team, sistren 

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On 10/14/2025 at 7:46 AM, Bronco said:

Honestly, this is a ****ing reach and a half. 

It's a blatant singular lightning bolt. Used by thousands of artists including Gaga. 

The Nazi SS logo is side by side lightning bolts. This necklace is clearly not that, and if it was worn or displayed on a mannequin there wouldn't even be any side by side bolts. 

Honestly, this kind of bullshit idiocy by infantile morons playing dressup as political activists is why Trumpism was able to take hold. 
This bullshit does Goering's work for him. 

I feel like the promo picture itself does enough to show the lightning bolts side by side. And really how "side by side" is enough for someone on a necklace? Are we gonna say stretching on a Neo-Nazi's SS Bolts tattoo also makes them not side by side? Also, the star has 8 points and there are 8 bolts, which is a double 8. 88 is one of the most common White Supremacist symbols due to H being the 8th letter of the alphabet and thus means HH or "Heil Hitler". 

 

You can claim that context matters and so the Neo-Nazi example isn't comparable. But you also previously defended her dog whistle racist lyrics in this thread. On top of that, Taylor has numerous racism allegations against her. "Wildest Dreams"'s MV drew criticism for whitewashing 1950s Africa. She was accused of white feminism and making a racism issue about her in 2015 when she hit back at Nicki Minaj after Nicki Tweeted about black women being excluded from major awards. Her song "I Hate It Here" talks about wanting to live in the 1830's without all the racists, romanticizing the time and minimizing the extent to which PoC suffered during the time period. She had that picture with a fan that was wearing a Swastika shirt, though the Swifties here quickly skimmed over that altogether. She didn't even bother saying a single thing about Matty Healy's Salute controversy, though she finds the energy to address every other facet of her previous relationships. Travis also said it was a "Great Honor" to have Trump attend the Super Bowl, because the President is the President no matter who is in office. Somehow he's apolitical but his future wife is a "huge" BLM supporter and he himself has condemned racism, while having the largest resurgence and normalization of racism in 100 years in attendance be an honor? That's all very interesting.

 

Overall though, for somebody that has shown time and time again their obsession with numerology and numerically related Easter Eggs, I refuse to believe this isn't a dog whistle. She can't be "So deep" and "Meticulously intentional" but then actually miss the mark at so many points. 

On 10/14/2025 at 11:47 AM, TheFrenchGuy said:

But the necklace has 8, so is she a Nazi times 4 ?

On 10/14/2025 at 12:07 PM, PartySick said:

Does it actually

'Cause "88" is a nazi number/symbol

Yes, 8 points on the star in the center and 8 lightning bolts that align evenly alongside one another. 

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On 10/14/2025 at 6:19 PM, LadyxGaGa said:

ok i’m ngl if u go to the website idk if we are seeing the same one but the way they did arrange the necklace and the bolts being perfectly matched to opppsite sides does give a little side eyeing 

 

anyone else feel like the positioning is weird 

yeah this is my issue with whether or not I believe it - there are so many coincidences that I feel like if she truly didn't agree with these views, the least any decent person would do is be mortified, and proceed to take them down, or at the very least, make a statement. This isn't the kind of thing any decent person would be happy to let people continue to speculate about them - especially someone like her who has such a big platform that it would take zero effort at all to even just deny it once. That's what's throwing me off about this - not the items themselves, but her lack of reaction to it. Like why isn't she horrified by people speculating this and doing at least something TINY to dismiss it?

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6 minutes ago, IWantYourLove said:

yeah this is my issue with whether or not I believe it - there are so many coincidences that I feel like if she truly didn't agree with these views, the least any decent person would do is be mortified, and proceed to take them down, or at the very least, make a statement. This isn't the kind of thing any decent person would be happy to let people continue to speculate about them - especially someone like her who has such a big platform that it would take zero effort at all to even just deny it once. That's what's throwing me off about this - not the items themselves, but her lack of reaction to it. Like why isn't she horrified by people speculating this and doing at least something TINY to dismiss it?

EXACTLY 

and in the age of social media unless her team lives under the world biggest heaviest rock word got back 

 

and whether she is smirking being like those trollops are finally catching on or some damage control needs to be done 

 

she saw the after effects of staying silent with that whole trump election the first time and how she was labeled a secret republican she needs to learn to speak up 

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27 minutes ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

I feel like the promo picture itself does enough to show the lightning bolts side by side. And really how "side by side" is enough for someone on a necklace? Are we gonna say stretching on a Neo-Nazi's SS Bolts tattoo also makes them not side by side? Also, the star has 8 points and there are 8 bolts, which is a double 8. 88 is one of the most common White Supremacist symbols due to H being the 8th letter of the alphabet and thus means HH or "Heil Hitler". 

 

You can claim that context matters and so the Neo-Nazi example isn't comparable. But you also previously defended her dog whistle racist lyrics in this thread. On top of that, Taylor has numerous racism allegations against her. "Wildest Dreams"'s MV drew criticism for whitewashing 1950s Africa. She was accused of white feminism and making a racism issue about her in 2015 when she hit back at Nicki Minaj after Nicki Tweeted about black women being excluded from major awards. Her song "I Hate It Here" talks about wanting to live in the 1830's without all the racists, romanticizing the time and minimizing the extent to which PoC suffered during the time period. She had that picture with a fan that was wearing a Swastika shirt, though the Swifties here quickly skimmed over that altogether. She didn't even bother saying a single thing about Matty Healy's Salute controversy, though she finds the energy to address every other facet of her previous relationships. Travis also said it was a "Great Honor" to have Trump attend the Super Bowl, because the President is the President no matter who is in office. Somehow he's apolitical but his future wife is a "huge" BLM supporter and he himself has condemned racism, while having the largest resurgence and normalization of racism in 100 years in attendance be an honor? That's all very interesting.

 

Overall though, for somebody that has shown time and time again their obsession with numerology and numerically related Easter Eggs, I refuse to believe this isn't a dog whistle. She can't be "So deep" and "Meticulously intentional" but then actually miss the mark at so many points. 

Yes, 8 points on the star in the center and 8 lightning bolts that align evenly alongside one another. 

The way there's actually something to it

Who designed it though 'cause they need to be FIRED.

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43 minutes ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

 there are 8 bolts

it has 12 bolts

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17 minutes ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said:

I feel like the promo picture itself does enough to show the lightning bolts side by side. And really how "side by side" is enough for someone on a necklace? Are we gonna say stretching on a Neo-Nazi's SS Bolts tattoo also makes them not side by side? Also, the star has 8 points and there are 8 bolts, which is a double 8. 88 is one of the most common White Supremacist symbols due to H being the 8th letter of the alphabet and thus means HH or "Heil Hitler". 

 

You can claim that context matters and so the Neo-Nazi example isn't comparable. But you also previously defended her dog whistle racist lyrics in this thread. On top of that, Taylor has numerous racism allegations against her. "Wildest Dreams"'s MV drew criticism for whitewashing 1950s Africa. She was accused of white feminism and making a racism issue about her in 2015 when she hit back at Nicki Minaj after Nicki Tweeted about black women being excluded from major awards. Her song "I Hate It Here" talks about wanting to live in the 1830's without all the racists, romanticizing the time and minimizing the extent to which PoC suffered during the time period. She had that picture with a fan that was wearing a Swastika shirt, though the Swifties here quickly skimmed over that altogether. She didn't even bother saying a single thing about Matty Healy's Salute controversy, though she finds the energy to address every other facet of her previous relationships. Travis also said it was a "Great Honor" to have Trump attend the Super Bowl, because the President is the President no matter who is in office. Somehow he's apolitical but his future wife is a "huge" BLM supporter and he himself has condemned racism, while having the largest resurgence and normalization of racism in 100 years in attendance be an honor? That's all very interesting.

If you are being genuine here. 

I'm so happy you live such an easy life. Because this is just truly immature "never stepped outside" in their life twitter twativist nonsensical drival. 

I pointed out that the Nazi SS comparisons for the necklace don't work because the symbolism is 2 lightning bolt S's. 
No nazi I've encountered through my years hanging out in skinhead & punk subcultures would call a necklace featuring lightning bolts as an SS symbol unless the SS symbol is formed when being worn. The entire point of it is to be seen as the double lightning bolt. 
So yeah, it does matter that the only time the lightning bolts are side by side is when the necklace isn't in use and outside of a website photo the only place a necklace would be when not in use is discarded in a bag/pocket/jewelery box and out of site. So it totally fails as symbolism. 

That being said - the 8/8 issue does add credence to the criticism and if you'd included that in your OP I'd have been more inclined to criticse the necklace from the beginning. Taking 3 days to attack me for something you didn't include or feature in your OP is quite funny. 

As for accusing me of defending racism - I pointed out that the claim that Opalite lyrics are racist is a reading of the lyrics that is only possible if you don't speak English. The Onyx & Opalite metaphors are set up as clear references to depression and happiness. Black has always been used to represent depression in popular culture dating back hundreds of years - because black is literally the absence of colour and a colourful life is associated with happiness. People are truly reaching with this nonsense. 

As for the topics you're piling in ontop of. Very funny considering you don't know my stance on the issue. 
And I have previously criticized Taylor for me-centered activism and white-knighting activism. So yeah, I think critiques about her & Nicki a decade ago were valid. The criticisms of the Wildest Dreams music video are further evidence of her white-knight approach to social issues, but i do think people need to touch grass a bit on that one. The swastika party photo is such a weird pop culture moment, the explanation behind it continues to confuse the **** out of me and truly adds to the horror-mythos of what happens at Hollywood parties. I was critical of her relationship with Ratty Healey, hate the c*nt and yeah her silence on him beyond what he did to her personally doesn't reflect well on her - but the celebrity PR system will always be to respond with silence, its the best PR approach and she does it to perfection which is why we'll never get a response to the necklace. 

As for Travis. It's really funny watching gays try talking about a sports personality who they didn't know existed until he got with a pop singer, because the timelines they use to create an image of the person truly begins in late 2023. Anyone who follows politics in popular culture knows that Travis Kelce was the MAGA NFL fanbase's most hated player from 2017 onwards, a full 6 years before he was ever linked to Taylor Swift. He was their liberal boogeyman that was the lightning rod for all their hatred and the only reason Aaron Rodgers regained any relevance in popular culture. 

I do think he was gross for lavishing too much praise on Trump and it was very obviously a PR moment. No sports team would stand by a player going after Trump - primarily because 90% are owned by conservatives, but also because it would hurt the bottom line regardless of their political stance. Like yeah, he's a typical celebrity and their morals end when the chequebook is involved. But the same can be thrown at celebrities we like, so you probably shouldn't tug on that thread on a Gaga site. 


 

 

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11 minutes ago, Bronco said:

If you are being genuine here. 

I'm so happy you live such an easy life. Because this is just truly immature "never stepped outside" in their life twitter twativist nonsensical drival. 

I pointed out that the Nazi SS comparisons for the necklace don't work because the symbolism is 2 lightning bolt S's. 
No nazi I've encountered through my years hanging out in skinhead & punk subcultures would call a necklace featuring lightning bolts as an SS symbol unless the SS symbol is formed when being worn. The entire point of it is to be seen as the double lightning bolt. 
So yeah, it does matter that the only time the lightning bolts are side by side is when the necklace isn't in use and outside of a website photo the only place a necklace would be when not in use is discarded in a bag/pocket/jewelery box and out of site. So it totally fails as symbolism. 

That being said - the 8/8 issue does add credence to the criticism and if you'd included that in your OP I'd have been more inclined to criticse the necklace from the beginning. Taking 3 days to attack me for something you didn't include or feature in your OP is quite funny. 

As for accusing me of defending racism - I pointed out that the claim that Opalite lyrics are racist is a reading of the lyrics that is only possible if you don't speak English. The Onyx & Opalite metaphors are set up as clear references to depression and happiness. Black has always been used to represent depression in popular culture dating back hundreds of years - because black is literally the absence of colour and a colourful life is associated with happiness. People are truly reaching with this nonsense. 

As for the topics you're piling in ontop of. Very funny considering you don't know my stance on the issue. 
And I have previously criticized Taylor for me-centered activism and white-knighting activism. So yeah, I think critiques about her & Nicki a decade ago were valid. The criticisms of the Wildest Dreams music video are further evidence of her white-knight approach to social issues, but i do think people need to touch grass a bit on that one. The swastika party photo is such a weird pop culture moment, the explanation behind it continues to confuse the **** out of me and truly adds to the horror-mythos of what happens at Hollywood parties. I was critical of her relationship with Ratty Healey, hate the c*nt and yeah her silence on him beyond what he did to her personally doesn't reflect well on her - but the celebrity PR system will always be to respond with silence, its the best PR approach and she does it to perfection which is why we'll never get a response to the necklace. 

As for Travis. It's really funny watching gays try talking about a sports personality who they didn't know existed until he got with a pop singer, because the timelines they use to create an image of the person truly begins in late 2023. Anyone who follows politics in popular culture knows that Travis Kelce was the MAGA NFL fanbase's most hated player from 2017 onwards, a full 6 years before he was ever linked to Taylor Swift. He was their liberal boogeyman that was the lightning rod for all their hatred and the only reason Aaron Rodgers regained any relevance in popular culture. 

I do think he was gross for lavishing too much praise on Trump and it was very obviously a PR moment. No sports team would stand by a player going after Trump - primarily because 90% are owned by conservatives, but also because it would hurt the bottom line regardless of their political stance. Like yeah, he's a typical celebrity and their morals end when the chequebook is involved. But the same can be thrown at celebrities we like, so you probably shouldn't tug on that thread on a Gaga site. 


 

 

"Immature twativist nonsensical drival", goes to generalize about gays and sports personalities. That's interesting. 

 

I didn't really care to see you try to defend every past instance of her questionable behavior. The point was mostly to point out that the added context of all these other things in her career give more air to the necklace issue. But that was my fault for the wording. 

 

But I will also say, it's not my or any OP's responsibility on this site to fully educate someone on any topics pertaining to the real world. It's yours as the individual. I'll admit that this was something added to articles later on, and I really didn't catch on to it until I actually had the time and energy to engage in the topic again (3 days later, as you pointed out). And it's not even that the point is slanted in opposition to what I asserted with the original topic, so it's not that I was misleading you or anybody else. But I do not understand pointing out that I didn't include some information in the original post, as the responsibility of doing independent research falls on us as individuals. Especially when it comes to the topics of racism and white supremacy accusations.