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Lizzo decided to shelve indefinitely her album after underperformance of singles


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19 minutes ago, MadArchitect said:

that's a crime!!! where do we get to see the rest

It was posted online two weeks ago or so

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1 hour ago, RAMROD said:

I think it might be edited out on final version

 

1 hour ago, MadArchitect said:

why does the frame in your profile picture not appear in the videoof TDD?

Not it is there. I just watched the video 

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angelduuh

This too me just says that she makes music for the charts. And I get it, you need money and all that stuff but this kind of **** you keep it to yourself. 

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HeAteMyh3art

Ava Max also mega flopped but she actually stuck with her guns for the artistry. This is how careers fade out

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1 hour ago, HeAteMyh3art said:

Ava Max also mega flopped but she actually stuck with her guns for the artistry. This is how careers fade out

Ava scrapped 'My Oh My' from her album, then recorded new album with 'Spot a Fake' as lead and with slower songs but scrapped it later and instead of trying to do something new she decided to make a pop album with some scrapped songs from Diamonds & Dancefloors.

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13 minutes ago, Teletubby said:

Ava scrapped 'My Oh My' from her album, then recorded new album with 'Spot a Fake' as lead and with slower songs but scrapped it later and instead of trying to do something new she decided to make a pop album with some scrapped songs from Diamonds & Dancefloors.

damn :icant:

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54 minutes ago, Pablo said:

No mention of the lawsuit though :oops:

there is:

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By the end of her world tour for Special — 79 shows that took her from Sunrise, Florida, to Niigata, Japan — Lizzo was on a high so high she never could have seen the crash coming. She got offstage that last night in Niigata, ready for some downtime before getting back into the studio. In the following days, three of her former backup dancers, Crystal Williams, Arianna Davis, and Noelle Rodriguez, filed a lawsuit against her, her former dance captain, and her touring company. Out of all the allegations, a few anecdotes have defined the controversy. The dancers allege they felt pressured to go to strip clubs while on tour, including one night out at Crazy Horse, a well-known Paris burlesque club, where they say they weren’t aware the performers would be nude. Another night at Bananenbar, a club in Amsterdam, they say Lizzo “cheered loudly to motivate” them to eat a banana protruding from a performer’s vagina. There was a 12-hour rehearsal day, during which one plaintiff says she was too afraid to leave the stage to use the bathroom.

From her post-tour vacation, a blindsided Lizzo sprang into action, she recounts. She had to talk to her lawyers. She had to talk to her manager. She had to write a statement. “It was hard. My best friend was there, and her kids came. I was trying to be happy, but we’d be at Hello Kitty! land, and I’m in the car crying out of frustration that I could not say what I wanted to say and just get on Instagram Live and be like, “What’s going on?” She couldn’t speak directly to her fan base or her detractors: “It was legal. Everything you say and do will be held against you in the court of law.”

This was different from other times she’d experienced backlash. More so than other celebrities, Lizzo had mastered the art of responding and repairing. When she was called out for using ableist language in her song “Grrrls,” she apologized, rerecorded the offending lyrics, and was forgiven. But now she had to issue an official statement, which she did on Instagram later that day: “My work ethic, morals, and respectfulness have been questioned. My character has been criticized. Usually, I choose not to respond to false allegations, but these are as unbelievable as they sound and too outrageous to not be addressed.” Lizzo vehemently denied the allegations, which she said were false or half-truths at best.

She continued on to Kyoto with her boyfriend. She stayed off her phone as much as she could. She meditated. She sat in steamy onsens. They visited a forest where she sat among buzzing cicadas and tried to find stillness. “The cicadas are loud as ****,” she recalls. “The whole time, they’re just like Eeeeee, eeeee, eeeeee.” It had the same effect as a sound bowl. She sat down on “this old rock-something thing” by an old tree and said to herself, “This tree was here before the lawsuit, before the internet, before the phone, before me. And this tree’s going to be here after me, after phones, after the backlash goes away. This is the only thing that’s real.” It gave her a little sense of peace, she recalls. “The peace that everything comes to an end.”

Embodying the age-old internet adage “Touch grass” got her through those first days. But then she had to go back to L.A., where the fallout was public and escalating swiftly. Upon landing, she was hit by the total weight of her situation. She had her first full-blown panic attack.

Williams, Davis, and Rodriguez appeared on Entertainment Tonight to voice disappointment with Lizzo’s statement. A few former collaborators spoke out in support of the dancers, citing their own negative experiences working with Lizzo; a documentarian revealed she had dropped out of a project with Lizzo in 2019 because she “was treated with such disrespect.” Op-eds and think pieces questioned how her empire of positivity could harbor such toxicity. People came to her defense. Eighteen staffers, including a number of dancers, signed declarations disputing many of the claims made against her.

A few weeks later, hours before she was set to receive the Quincy Jones Humanitarian Award at the Black Music Action Gala, a second lawsuit hit. A former wardrobe assistant for her dancers, Asha Daniels, alleged that Lizzo’s 2023 tour was an environment where she was subjected to “racist” and “fatphobic” comments and sexual harassment. At the gala that night, Lizzo went onstage and made a tearful speech, promising that despite her current situation, she was going to “continue to put on and represent and create safe spaces for Black fat women, because that’s what the **** I do. It is my purpose, and it is an honor.”

The allegation that almost undid her wasn’t sexual harassment or accusations of a hostile work environment. It was that anyone would believe she had fat-shamed someone, that anyone would think everything she had been living and embodying was performative and for profit: “How can any of that be performative and fake when it was my actual life? Who can keep that façade up for years? For people to say it’s beneficial to be body-positive when that wasn’t even the trend. I made it the trend. I’m one of the ones who forged it.”

She surgically defends herself, pointing to the lawsuit itself like her own legal counsel. The accusations did not include explicit comments pertaining to weight; rather, the suit alleges Lizzo asked Davis a series of questions about her “commitment to the tour” in April 2023 that gave her “the impression that she needed to explain her weight gain and disclose intimate personal details about her life in order to keep her job.” Davis believed this because, she claims, “Lizzo had previously called attention to” her weight gain “after noticing it at the South by Southwest music festival.” Lizzo calls out the lawsuit’s vague language: “I would get it if it said, ‘Then [Lizzo] said “You fat bitch,” and then she pushed me, and then she grabbed my stomach.’ But it doesn’t even say I did anything, and y’all believed nothing,” she says, working herself up. “Y’all believed a headline. It was like, Holy ****, this person, me, the real me, that I’ve put on display so proudly and fearlessly for so many years, isn’t me anymore to the world.” She had always been “very fun,” “very flirty,” “a little hypersexual, a little boy crazy.” She had always presented herself authentically, but now the world was upset with that presentation. “That’s like somebody taking who you are and rearranging it into something you’re not. They turn you into a fish, and you’re like, But I’m a human. I’m not a fish. How am I going to live life as a fish? I live on air.”

I ask Lizzo how this could have happened. How did a human turn into a fish? She tells me how: She hadn’t realized how famous she had gotten, so she hadn’t adjusted her way of working. Lizzo had always been proud that she worked with people she considered close friends or who became close friends through working together. When she was an indie artist, she traveled in a van with bandmates. The people who did her hair, executed her choreo, did her sound were the people she partied with, gossiped with, confided in. Boundaries were permeable. But then her fame grew rapidly, and she wasn’t prepared. Her Amazon show and tour were her first times dealing with such a large staff, many of whom she didn’t know personally. “I had this scrappy indie-artist brain,” she says, “but I was a Grammy Award–winning, Emmy Award–winning artist. You can’t move in the same way.”
 

The lawsuits are still active, and Lizzo continues to fight the allegations. Her legal team has filed multiple appeals to dismiss them to varying degrees of efficacy. She’s no longer an individual defendant in the case of the former wardrobe assistant, Asha Daniels, but her touring company still is. A trial is currently set for December. The case of the three dancers, Williams, Davis, and Rodriguez, has been murkier. Lizzo’s team has attempted to get it thrown out using the First Amendment and California’s anti-SLAPP rule, a law that allows suits to be quickly dismissed if they target free-speech rights — in Lizzo’s case, they argue, these lawsuits infringe upon her ability to promote herself and her music. A judge dismissed the weight-shaming allegation but denied the rest of the motion, allowing the case to proceed. In June, Lizzo filed an appeal, which is still pending. Davis, Williams, and Rodriguez declined to speak with me. Their lawyer, Ron Zambrano, said the chapter is not closed.
https://www.vulture.com/article/lizzo-comeback-lawsuit-canceled-zeitgeist-interview.html

 

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RichAssPiss

You're all so damn mean. I wanted the album. "Still Bad" is a great song. I really liked the rock/soul sound she was teasing. I'm disappointed about this and I sadly don't think she'll recover from scrapping this whole era. I would have bought the record. 

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Lord Mayhem

Im sorry but NO artist scraps their own album unless the label says so...if they really were confident in the album and its performance...they'd release it regardless of her personal feelings about it...let's be so for real :icant:

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10 minutes ago, Lord Mayhem said:

Im sorry but NO artist scraps their own album unless the label says so...if they really were confident in the album and its performance...they'd release it regardless of her personal feelings about it...let's be so for real :icant:

she is signed to Atlantic through Nice Life Recording - this is company of her main producer and close friend so it's possible that it was her decision. 
Atlantic allowed Ava Max to release her “flop” album, so I don't think they would stop Lizzo from releasing. 

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