Gaga Not Speaking Up

[TwistedTeeth 2,167]

I took Gaga's order at Joanne's and she made direct eye contact with me every time she ordered f@gottini. She ordered 4 plates and didn't tip. It's joever.

Edited 13 hours ago by TwistedTeeth

[PartySick 153,512]

Just now, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

But it is not about how hard it is for her to say something or not. It's about whether or not it will actually help the cause. 

The current political climate is not welcoming of wealthy individuals speaking to the average Joe on social issues. Donald Trump won the election with that narrative: "All these big fishes don't care about you, I'm telling it like it is, I'm just like you, I hate them too". 

There is a reason why Luigi Mangione, an actual murderer, is being celebrated by both the left and the right, yet Selena Gomez was laughed off the internet (by both the left and the right) for recording herself crying: people want action, not dramatic speeches online from rich people. 

The celebrity fatigue syndrome is at an all time high, and someone like Lady GaGa preaching online will be 100% negatively received. It will be brownie points for those who already share her values, and nothing else, in my opinion. 

The world has changed since Born This Way was released, and activism should adapt to the new reality that we're in. If most people hate celebrities now, then celebrities should not be the face of important causes.

See, I don't think like that. Gaga speaking out isn't about how much she can do, it's about showing that she's still willing to do what she can. It's a long time ally showing that she's still there.

I often feel like I'm changing nothing while standing on the corner of some random street holding a sign calling Elon a Nazi but I'm still out there.

Selena was laughed off the internet 'cause her video was ridiculous. Her sincere work for immigrants' rights is still appreciated though.

The only celebrity fatigue out there is among disconnected individuals who see rich people complaining about how hard life is. It gets an eye roll. Donald Trump won the election 'cause Joe Biden's economy didn't live up to expectations. That's it.

Gaga leading a crowd of people in a conversation about LGBTQ rights and safety under this heinous administration wouldn't get the same reaction as Selena Gomez crying about how powerless she feels before deleting and replying with sarcasm and spite after being mocked for it.

[River 112,311]

1 hour ago, PartySick said:

She's a popstar but she used to be so much more than that. It wouldn't be hard for her to be that again.

The Grammy's had singers like Billie, Charlie and others, none of them spoke about LGBTQ+ in their speech or performances, they are all young artists who has the privileged that Gaga, Madonna and others paved the way for them to speak up the community, but still they didn't and some are identified as LGBTQ+, so at the end, she spoke up and they clapped like "yes Gaga say it!!", all of them could give us 5 seconds of their self centered ego winning speech, but they didn't.

 

so we can complain about Gaga all we want, but there were 100 pop singers at the Grammy's, but only Gaga spoke up about Trans rights

[PartySick 153,512]

15 minutes ago, River said:

The Grammy's had singers like Billie, Charlie and others, none of them spoke about LGBTQ+ in their speech or performances, they are all young artists who has the privileged that Gaga, Madonna and others paved the way for them to speak up the community, but still they didn't and some are identified as LGBTQ+, so at the end, she spoke up and they clapped like "yes Gaga say it!!", all of them could give us 5 seconds of their self centered ego winning speech, but they didn't.

 

so we can complain about Gaga all we want, but there were 100 pop singers at the Grammy's, but only Gaga spoke up about Trans rights

Ok but on the other hand, artists like Billie have been vocal about the things they care about (like the genocide in Gaza) while Gaga waited until she got a trophy to say something and even then she had to thank her boyfriend and hitmaker Bruno before lending a few words to the trans community  

[Marilyn MonHoe 9,701]

2 hours ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

I have insider info, and actually the "Garden of Eden" video will start with her looking at the camera and saying: "It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, bitch", then the camera shows the pride flag burning, and she starts waving the US flag . LADY MAGA is here, the f-slurs are not ready  

Yaaassss! It makes total sense since some people say she isn’t vocal enough! I mean who cares about her decades worth of activism and the foundation that she set up !?!?

She said f*ck those phagguettes! 

[OliviaRodrigoStan 5,412]

12 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said:

Yaaassss! It makes total sense since some people say she isn’t vocal enough! I mean who cares about her decades worth of activism and the foundation that she set up !?!?

She said f*ck those phagguettes! 

It's over for the alphabet mafia I'm afraid, her next single will be called "Born An Actual Woman", and the music video is a 5 minute x-ray clip of JK Rowling's vagina, flaunting her uterus . 

 

[AliceAnesthesia 3]

47 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Ok but on the other hand, artists like Billie have been vocal about the things they care about (like the genocide in Gaza) while Gaga waited until she got a trophy to say something and even then she had to thank her boyfriend and hitmaker Bruno before lending a few words to the trans community  

I think it's a little bit disingenuous to say she waited to get a trophy to say something. And I don't really think there's anything wrong with thanking the people that you personally know before shouting out whatever it is that you want to bring attention to in an acceptance speech either.  I think it's better to end with the more important thing actually rather than the other way around. And as a trans person I found it to be a lovely message and it meant a lot to me.

I was a bit surprised actually that Gaga was the only one to voice support. Other than her Chappell Roan brought up trans people and that was only on the red carpet interview.  (Which I did still also love and appreciate.)

I understand if someone thinks there should be more support outside of just an awards show, that's a very fair point. But I don't think it should just be discredited completely.

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[vertigostick 2,384]

Bla bla bla Just stfu. 

[Ziggy 11,327]

Idk I think she’s used most major opportunities to talk about queer rights (Grammy’s, interviews, etc.)

[Ziggy 11,327]

22 hours ago, AVeryGagaHolyDick said:

No but there was that time where she did break two fans’ necks at the artRAVE when she decided it was a good the idea to jump with her whole energy in crowd from that high ass stage and I think one of them thanked her on social media for breaking her neck 

 

Omg memories 

[PartySick 153,512]

34 minutes ago, AliceAnesthesia said:

I think it's a little bit disingenuous to say she waited to get a trophy to say something. And I don't really think there's anything wrong with thanking the people that you personally know before shouting out whatever it is that you want to bring attention to in an acceptance speech either.  I think it's better to end with the more important thing actually rather than the other way around. And as a trans person I found it to be a lovely message and it meant a lot to me.

I was a bit surprised actually that Gaga was the only one to voice support. Other than her Chappell Roan brought up trans people and that was only on the red carpet interview.  (Which I did still also love and appreciate.)

I understand if someone thinks there should be more support outside of just an awards show, that's a very fair point. But I don't think it should just be discredited completely.

Well, I'm exaggerating as one does on the internet. My point is she didn't say anything until she was on stage accepting a Grammy. Had she and Bruno lost that Grammy she wouldn't have said anything. So the "trans people are not invisible" feels like an empty platitude more than a real statement tbh.

[River 112,311]

1 hour ago, PartySick said:

Ok but on the other hand, artists like Billie have been vocal about the things they care about (like the genocide in Gaza) while Gaga waited until she got a trophy to say something and even then she had to thank her boyfriend and hitmaker Bruno before lending a few words to the trans community  

well she's LGBTQ+ and if she cares less about her community rights, especially trans rights, in MAGA USA, then.. well choices I guess, another nail in the Kamala loss coffin.

Speaking about trans rights during an award speech will speak to much more people who are watching the award show, than a story that will disappear after 24 hours, but u see, no matter what she does, it will never be enough, it will never be good, people will always nitpick and find the negative side of her choices, because she's the perfect celebrity to do so. especially by her fans.

 

[Nathaniel Arven 1,761]

ain't she been vocal the last time she received a major award ? She even was the highlight of the night like two weeks ago for speaking up for trans rights.

 

[MOT 2,921]

It is dangerous for public figures like Gaga to speak up on political or social issues. There would always have been a certain amount of danger, but it is increased now - they are deporting people to prison in El Salvador without due legal process, and today they arrested a judge.

I think the OP was just making an observation about Gaga rather than criticizing, and I think it was probably an accurate observation, i.e. she speaks up less (but she still speaks up). And if she does speak up less I wouldn't blame her. She has to consider the safety of loved ones, not just herself.

[PartySick 153,512]

1 hour ago, River said:

well she's LGBTQ+ and if she cares less about her community rights, especially trans rights, in MAGA USA, then.. well choices I guess, another nail in the Kamala loss coffin.

Speaking about trans rights during an award speech will speak to much more people who are watching the award show, than a story that will disappear after 24 hours, but u see, no matter what she does, it will never be enough, it will never be good, people will always nitpick and find the negative side of her choices, because she's the perfect celebrity to do so. especially by her fans.

Drawing criticism isn't an "excuse" to be quiet either  it has nothing to do with how people would receive her activism and everything to do with her acting.

Idk man, most of the same people saying "she doesn't have to prove herself" and giving a million reasons why she is largely are also out here saying stuff like "silence is violence".

I don't really care either way anymore, the benefits of deciding that being a stan is toxic.