Head Empty 24,973 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 18 minutes ago, PartySick said: ARTPOP, Joanne, and Chromatica didn't lend themselves to the "opera house in the desert"/"Gaga vs herself/Mayhem" theme she had going To be fair, parts of Chromatica fit that theme really well. Even sonically. Moreso than songs like Alejandro or Shallow. But I agree with the rest of your post. Setlisting is an artform. When Gaga makes a setlist, she has to: - Include enough hits - Include fan favorites - Promote her latest record - Represent previous eras as well - Make sure she doesn't get bored herself - Pace the show properly - Tell a cohesive story It's impossible to balance all of these points when you only have about 20 songs in total, so she has to make sacrifices one way or another. Her previous albums already had their time to shine so it makes sense to focus on Mayhem and some of the "obligatory" hits. Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
culturalbaptism 2,915 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 44 minutes ago, PartySick said: But I know this thread was made to be weirdly antagonistic towards people who like and appreciate Joanne and OP gets more out of hating a project and annoying other fans than they do appreciating what they like and joining the party so carry on with the weird energy, I guess Lies! I'm just trying to understand, I hope I didn't hit any nerve. Judas is coming, let the cultural baptism begin. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
culturalbaptism 2,915 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, Popo said: pls stop assuming pronouns, i expect more from a mod of your stature Please no fights on this thread. Judas is coming, let the cultural baptism begin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 157,511 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 19 minutes ago, Head Empty said: To be fair, parts of Chromatica fit that theme really well. Even sonically. Moreso than songs like Alejandro or Shallow. But I agree with the rest of your post. Setlisting is an artform. When Gaga makes a setlist, she has to: - Include enough hits - Include fan favorites - Promote her latest record - Represent previous eras as well - Make sure she doesn't get bored herself - Pace the show properly - Tell a cohesive story It's impossible to balance all of these points when you only have about 20 songs in total, so she has to make sacrifices one way or another. Her previous albums already had their time to shine so it makes sense to focus on Mayhem and some of the "obligatory" hits. Oh for sure, some Joanne fits that as well. You could argue ARTPOP, especially Aura, would fit perfectly around the beginning. There's a lot of ways she could have gone, this is just the way she did go 💔thought we'd last a lifetime when I'm mumbling alone💔 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 21,808 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2025 at 7:10 AM, culturalbaptism said: While I was watching Gagachella today, I was wondering why there is no Joanne songs on the setlist. Why is that GGD? Help me to understand. Is Joanne not good enough to be in the best show of her life? And if Joanne is such a great album as some of you may state, why she's not featured? Sinner's Pray would be a great addition. God, you truly are insufferable. Back the candle section of Bed, Bath, and Beyond where you belong. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotLikeMexico 5,115 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, PartySick said: The same reason there was no BTW for the artRAVE aside from BTW acoustic Or no ARTPOP for the JWT besides Applause Or no ARTPOP or Joanne for TCB Or ARTPOP, Joanne, or Chromatica for Coachella Her shows are crafted to have specific narratives and themes and now that she's 7 albums in with several other projects aside from core albums, sometimes one of the dozen or more songs from any specific album won't make the cut ARTPOP, Joanne, and Chromatica didn't lend themselves to the "opera house in the desert"/"Gaga vs herself/Mayhem" theme she had going She also didn't perform Just Dance, but that says nothing about the song But I know this thread was made to be weirdly antagonistic towards people who like and appreciate Joanne and OP gets more out of hating a project and annoying other fans than they do appreciating what they like and joining the party so carry on with the weird energy, I guess Oh you ATE with this. 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,743 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Obviously, a lot of these albums didn't lend itself to the narrative she was going for but also, as much as us fans hate to admit it, those albums just didn't hit well with the public, apart from one or two songs. She wants to sing songs that everyone recognises in between songs from her new album. After 7 albums, she has to keep it tight. It's well known by now that she looks upon AP with a great deal of sadness and is the album she'd rather forget in lots of ways. And Joanne, well, she was hurting with that as well and definitely during Chromatica. Maybe the eventual tour will cover some of it for the fans but Coachella is a public spectacle, just as much as the Superbowl. You have to give the public what they want in these circumstances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
culturalbaptism 2,915 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 3 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: God, you truly are insufferable. Back the candle section of Bed, Bath, and Beyond where you belong. Stans of Björk are used to be drag by pop stans because of jealousy, they lack the taste in artistry. Judas is coming, let the cultural baptism begin. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkgaga 4,704 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Because it is a boring album, and maybe only PI would have fit somewhere but she always has struggled to sing it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 9,876 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, Controversiaga said: This. She included the albums that mean the most to her. The albums she worked the hardest on and it’s no coincidence those are also the fans favorite albums as well And that she included deep cuts that are favourites of hers and the fans. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 21,808 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) On 4/13/2025 at 4:46 PM, culturalbaptism said: Stans of Björk are used to be drag by pop stans because of jealousy, they lack the taste in artistry. You’re a Teenage Dream stan using Björk as a human shield. You eat McDonalds every day while pretending you’d prefer a Michelin star restaurant. Repent. Edited April 16 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 1,925 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2025 at 1:10 PM, culturalbaptism said: While I was watching Gagachella today, I was wondering why there is no Joanne songs on the setlist. Why is that GGD? Help me to understand. Is Joanne not good enough to be in the best show of her life? And if Joanne is such a great album as some of you may state, why she's not featured? Sinner's Pray would be a great addition. atp just say you stan the girl who smashed with bad romance and move on... omg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 21,808 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, elegidadedios said: atp just say you stan the girl who smashed with bad romance and move on... omg They’re too busy pretending to listen to Björk so they can justify stanning HBDUWM We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
culturalbaptism 2,915 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: You’re a Teenage Dream stan using Björk as a human shield. You eat McDonalds every day pretend you’ve been to a Michelin star restaurant. Repent. I took a break from my alternative 90s music, to enjoy Mayhem because Gaga hit it. I haven't played Joanne since 2017. Judas is coming, let the cultural baptism begin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 21,808 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, culturalbaptism said: I took a break from my alternative 90s music, to enjoy Mayhem because Gaga hit it. I haven't played Joanne since 2017. Nothing cringier than the performance of supposed superiority over taste in music tbh. Very cool that you like 90s alt. So do I. No one really gives a **** and it doesn’t give you more or less merit in any given conversation lmao We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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