Jennie Lisa Rose N-word Scandal: Old videos resurfaced

[Morphine Prince 104,171]

1 hour ago, River said:

the majority of people who's not American or part of stan culture learns the real meaning of the N word very late in their lives, or even not all usually it's because they don't know English well, they don't know the american history well enough and many other reasons.

Like in Europe everything is dubbed, so they may be consuming US media, but it's in their language, so many derogatory words are simply translate them in their own language.

I think it's hip hop artists' job to teach folks outside of the US about the word and not expect them to learn it by themselves, because they won't, people simply don't care enough to do that.

YG is a corporation though. They have their biggest artists saying these things and being recorded.

Like another user here said, just pure capitalism and no cultural knowledge. 

[River 110,949]

3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

YG is a corporation though. They have their biggest artists saying these things and being recorded.

Like another user here said, just pure capitalism and no cultural knowledge. 

I wish it was only that, we don't need to get that far outside of the US, almost all the American teenagers uses the N word between them, in social media, in video games and even at school and they know exactly what it means (remember Camilla Cabello, she was what between 14-16 years old?)

[RAMROD 107,088]

6 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

YG is a corporation though. They have their biggest artists saying these things and being recorded.

Like another user here said, just pure capitalism and no cultural knowledge. 

But N word is only politicized in the US, outside it's really not as big issue as it is in here. Most people abroad saying that word as parts of the lyrics, they didn't know it was wrong to do so. It's just a case of ignorance than racism

[Morphine Prince 104,171]

1 minute ago, River said:

I wish it was only that, we don't need to get that far outside of the US, almost all the American teenagers uses the N word between them, in social media, in video games and even at school and they know exactly what it means (remember Camilla Cabello, she was what between 14-16 years old?)

N word usage is common among Black Americans mostly. 

Some younger people use it but eventually grow out of it when adults. Kids are dumb so it makes sense. 

You also have some communities that are Black-adjacent who use the word (such as Latinos who grew up in urban environments that were heavily Black), yet this usage is criticized and not accepted by most. 

Point is, it’s not difficult to learn and change one’s behavior when confronted with new information. There is no need for mental gymnastics and defense. 

I’m sure we’ve all said/done things that we later learned were culturally insensitive whether that was our intent or not  

 

[Morphine Prince 104,171]

4 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

But N word is only politicized in the US, outside it's really not as big issue as it is in here. Most people abroad saying that word as parts of the lyrics, they didn't know it was wrong to do so. It's just a case of ignorance than racism

YG has their artists borrowing from a predominantly Black-American genre and specifically have songs in English to cater to a wider audience. I think it’s not unfair to expect a company to have some knowledge on the music styles they’re using in their products. 

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Just now, Morphine Prince said:

YG has their artists borrowing from a predominantly Black-American genre and specifically have songs in English to cater to a wider audience. I think it’s not unfair to expect a company to have some knowledge on the music styles they’re using in their products. 

They should, but again outside USA, identity is not as politicized. Them saying these words is unlike, say, white Americans or white hispanic americans who continue saying it, even after educated that is not OK, because they clearly know the intention. 

[Morphine Prince 104,171]

1 minute ago, RAMROD said:

They should, but again outside USA, identity is not as politicized. Them saying these words is unlike, say, white Americans or white hispanic americans who continue saying it, even after educated that is not OK, because they clearly know the intention. 

Of course. Again, nobody is faulting them. 

I’m personally just surprised a company that big isn’t careful or knowledgeable and the overall defense posture people are taking instead of just acknowledging and learning. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Of course. Again, nobody is faulting them. 

I’m personally just surprised a company that big isn’t careful or knowledgeable and the overall defense posture people are taking instead of just acknowledging and learning. 

 

Yeah, hope the k-pop industry is getting better at these things. If they want global market then they need to be more educated on things like this.

[IllusionLover 6,595]

9 hours ago, CautiousLurker said:

Great, now we're definitely not getting the Sour Candy MV 

Well, not really soon

[IllusionLover 6,595]

10 hours ago, HotLikeMexico said:

Lol can’t wait for the kpop stans to use their mental gymnastics to defend this. 

Remember when BTS stans were against us? 

[River 110,949]

32 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

N word usage is common among Black Americans mostly. 

Some younger people use it but eventually grow out of it when adults. Kids are dumb so it makes sense. 

You also have some communities that are Black-adjacent who use the word (such as Latinos who grew up in urban environments that were heavily Black), yet this usage is criticized and not accepted by most. 

Point is, it’s not difficult to learn and change one’s behavior when confronted with new information. There is no need for mental gymnastics and defense. 

I’m sure we’ve all said/done things that we later learned were culturally insensitive whether that was our intent or not  

 

It makes me wonder if the use of the word in music is backfiring at the end, it “normalized” it and instead of being a word of protest it became a slang word.

Again I’m not defending them, just giving explaining why they said that.

I’m not American, my parents explained to me what yhe word means after they heard me saying it in a song, I think I was like 12, Maybe younger but then I stopped saying it.

In hebrew we have an equivalent derogatory word and people still use it freely, just to hurt.

[timdrake 753]

I'm not a person of color, so my feelings really shouldn't mean much here, but for the sake of conversation, I'll say 1. this could be a cultural disparity where they may not understand the deep-rooted negative history of the word, and why it's inappropriate to use it even when singing a song or trying to emulate a style of performance.

2. even if she DID understand, young people unfortunately do this all the time. as long as shock value makes people seem "edgy", they'll use words they shouldn't, until they grow to regret it (remember those Justin Bieber videos?).

it's a bummer  

[Gaga2645 2,162]

9 hours ago, UNIGMA said:

Many rappers have openly included the word 'chink' in their songs and never apologized,  Miley made 'slant-eyes' with a group of white friends and got away with it.
So when these underage K-pop trainees sang the N-word while they were trying to learn hiphop, is it really such a big issue?

The fact that you typed out “ch*nk” and not the N word is quite literally the proof in the pudding, it just doesn’t work that

[Morphine Prince 104,171]

12 minutes ago, River said:

It makes me wonder if the use of the word in music is backfiring at the end, it “normalized” it and instead of being a word of protest it became a slang word.

Again I’m not defending them, just giving explaining why they said that.

I’m not American, my parents explained to me what yhe word means after they heard me saying it in a song, I think I was like 12, Maybe younger but then I stopped saying it.

In hebrew we have an equivalent derogatory word and people still use it freely, just to hurt.

I wouldn’t say it’s backfiring because the genre is Black American dominated and that word is a part of that community and has deep roots and the word has been reclaimed. The genre has since gone global but it was originally made by Black Americans for Black Americans. 

This reveals more about the people saying it or reacting to others saying it, to be honest. 

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21 minutes ago, River said:

It makes me wonder if the use of the word in music is backfiring at the end, it “normalized” it and instead of being a word of protest it became a slang word.

Again I’m not defending them, just giving explaining why they said that.

I’m not American, my parents explained to me what yhe word means after they heard me saying it in a song, I think I was like 12, Maybe younger but then I stopped saying it.

In hebrew we have an equivalent derogatory word and people still use it freely, just to hurt.

I get this explanation a lot, as a latino my brothers have always used this excuse. It also boils down to arrogance to a certain degree, I feel. They refuse to acknowledge what they’re doing is wrong. But obviously this isn’t always the case and it is genuine ignorance and some people do make the change to try and learn