bionic 50,112 Posted March 19, 2025 Share Posted March 19, 2025 6 hours ago, Ivannn said: I consider myself a big supporter Of EU and I Cling towards European federation when thinking about the future Of EU, bit with heavy heart I see Hungary ( Orban ) as a problem and factor Of destabilisation How can you cling onto the naive notion of a European Federation when a sizable number of members act exactly like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTea 6,987 Posted March 19, 2025 Share Posted March 19, 2025 Oh god... Gaga is needed again, more than ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,773 Posted March 19, 2025 Share Posted March 19, 2025 Let Hungary rot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 16,177 Posted March 19, 2025 Share Posted March 19, 2025 5 hours ago, PatrickMonster said: Magyar is like our last chance for the election in 2026. Some polls say he has a 8-10% lead against Orban right now, but Orban’s propaganda is crazy, he owns almost all major media outlets at this point and they LIE big time. They made up stories already about him including beating his ex-wife and harassing young girls in a night club. None of these had any truth in them but unfortunately when these made up stuff gets showed in TV, the newspapers, radio and internet ads 0-24, people tend to believe anything. Orban has a strong following with the old and less educated people and unfortunately they are the majority at this point. Orban is going to do everything in his power to keep in position, and some say he cannot be beaten through democratic ways because he is going to cheat away the elections. Magyar is pro EU and anti Russia so if he wins there would be a complete turnaround in the Hungarian politics. He also has nothing against LGBTQ people and says people should live how they want to. It looks like Hungary is in the present day US situation where revolution is needed to overturn the country to a better place. The smoke bombs in parliament is a good start, but more is needed now. he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAsUnic0rn 2,249 Posted March 19, 2025 Share Posted March 19, 2025 5 hours ago, lastpopicon said: Let's see how their upcoming elections play out. From what I've read on this topic, there's a bit of hope, and many Hungarians that don't support his government. „Let‘s see how their upcoming election plays out“ is kinda the sentiment since 2010. Mind you, they entered the EU in 2004. Maybe allowing them in was a mistake if they were a liability and pain in the ass of the union in 16/22 years as part of the bloc. Before every election we hear „This time the Hungarians really seem over it for real.“ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,159 Posted March 19, 2025 Share Posted March 19, 2025 1 hour ago, bionic said: How can you cling onto the naive notion of a European Federation when a sizable number of members act exactly like this In the future why not,,, I am aware Of the fact that federation is not possible now or in the next 20 Years, but in the long Term it is … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACATL 2,184 Posted March 19, 2025 Share Posted March 19, 2025 13 hours ago, Gmonster said: That really frustrates me. The EU has values and policies that all member states are supposed to follow, so why are we still allowing these countries to remain in the Union when they’re not complying? On top of that, they’re pro-Russia and have supported Putin from the start. Hopefully, sanctions and funding cuts from the EU are coming their way—let’s see how long it takes for them to reverse course. Mark my words, Putin is behind all of the destabilization in the majority of the west right now, especially in the US. I believe his goal is ultimately to break up the US and EU in response to what happened to the Soviet Union 34 years ago. He’s well on his way to success in the US, no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbev 514 Posted March 20, 2025 Share Posted March 20, 2025 Horrendous. We need an angry emoji for posts like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanneMonster 9,075 Posted March 20, 2025 Share Posted March 20, 2025 Im sorry but the EU should reallt get their sh*t together and start taking action against issues like this. they talk a lot but they do nothing. Hungary needs to be OUT I See You Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Ecstacy 3,890 Posted March 20, 2025 Share Posted March 20, 2025 17 hours ago, lastpopicon said: I struggle with that because a big part of the population in Hungary doesn't supports this I'm sorry but that is NOT true. I lived in Hungary for 4 years Hungary is a pretty homophobic country with the majority of the population being very anti-gay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DISZKO 800 Posted March 21, 2025 Share Posted March 21, 2025 On 3/19/2025 at 3:34 PM, Ivannn said: I accept that not everybody in Hungary support Orban or agree with him, BUT he has been elected FIVE times as PM. IT is a fact that Hungary does not comply with acquies anymore and de facto could not be admited in the EU today On 3/19/2025 at 2:01 PM, BornAsUnic0rn said: But keeping Hungary in the EU is a danger to the whole EU, it‘s institutions and it‘s rule of law. Hungary is deliberately acting against the union in bad faith and proving to be the EU‘s achilles heel. In one way or another the majority of Hungarians did vote for this. And if you want to argue that they didn‘t, even worse, the EU is a union of democratic states. I want to apologize for the aggressive tone of my previous message. This topic is deeply personal to me, and it’s frustrating when Hungary’s situation is reduced to a simple dismissal. While it’s true that Orbán has won multiple elections, that doesn’t mean his rule reflects the free and fair will of the people. State-controlled media, propaganda, and institutional manipulation have played a massive role in maintaining his power. Ignoring these factors erases the struggle of those who are actively resisting and trying to change things. I understand the frustration with Hungary’s government undermining EU principles, but blaming the entire nation overlooks the reality of those fighting against Orbán’s regime. The EU claims to uphold democracy, yet it has largely failed to support movements that challenge autocracy in Hungary. Instead of dismissing the country as a whole, why not push for stronger EU action—real support for independent media, civil society, and opposition groups? Eastern European countries have often been treated as second-class members of the EU, and abandoning them now would only strengthen authoritarian rule rather than weaken it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCool 1,098 Posted March 22, 2025 Share Posted March 22, 2025 On 3/19/2025 at 9:35 AM, Chromatix said: Agreed. Greetings from Poland. Its interesting. American but my Dad's ancestry is Hungarian and Polish. I always associated Poland as being a real conservative country and Hungary a real liberal one... but my perception is that it is changing quite a bit? Poland seems to be getting more liberal while Hungary more conservative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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