faysalaaa 3,636 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Scar97 said: I’m asking this as someone who truly wants to understand. Is someone who wants Israel to still exist as a country considered a Zionist? I feel this term gets thrown around in an all-encompassing way If you believe Israel has a religious and historic right to take over the land, and justify anything they do because of that, you are a Zionist. But if you support the existence of a already established country and its people because they already exist, you are not a Zionist. There is a difference between someone who feels entitled about America taking of Native Americans land, and someone that acknowledges Americas bad past, while supporting the existence of America today. But yeah people call everyone a Zionist today and its used losely.. Edited 11 hours ago by faysalaaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 3,636 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 23 hours ago, River said: So.. if I put now the Israeli flag on my avatar, because well, I'm Israeli, and I somehow still love my country, not my government, not their genocidal actions, but I love my home and where I was born. will you classify me as a Zionist immediately or will you be smart enough not to make this assumption? when an American person screams USA USA USA with the American flag, do u see the genocide this country did and does or you just "aww a patriotic American, cute"? People can love Israel without being called zionists, gaga can love Israel but it doesn't make her a zionist.. end of the day, she's still an American. What 7th October, the genocide is Palestine and Lebanon, what the war in Ukraine, every recent tragedy taught me that western people are f*cking cruel, they see all these tragedies as a sick hunger games for their own amusement. I always fought back and hated when Jews told me to stop using the Zionist word because they consider it a slur! I continued using it because I used it correctly, but honestly, after seeing all the effective misuse of the word as a weapon to attack normal good people, im more careful about it. Have you seen the insane attack on the H3H3 podcast that they are Zionists just for being born Jewish?! Edited 8 hours ago by faysalaaa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 5,704 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 22 hours ago, River said: What 7th October, the genocide is Palestine and Lebanon, what the war in Ukraine, every recent tragedy taught me that western people are f*cking cruel, they see all these tragedies as a sick hunger games for their own amusement. You think this is a behaviour exclusive to western people? Cause it's not. It doesn't make it less bad but humans will always behave like this. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scar97 1,582 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 9 hours ago, faysalaaa said: If you believe Israel has a religious and historic right to take over the land, and justify anything they do because of that, you are a Zionist. But if you support the existence of a already established country and its people because they already exist, you are not a Zionist. There is a difference between someone who feels entitled about America taking of Native Americans land, and someone that acknowledges Americas bad past, while supporting the existence of America today. But yeah people call everyone a Zionist today and its used losely.. Thank you. I super appreciate that. Yeah I feel like if you say or have said anything nice about Israel, you’re a Zionist (even while denouncing the genocide). No nuance Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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