Sloan discusses working with Gaga and Richy

[cachapatratorian 353]

1 hour ago, darkgaga said:

Kinda sad Gaga never replied t Sloan, and that in this interview it is insinuated that Richy is still part of the Haus. 
By the way, which dancer did she say was the one that was close to Richy and showed up late etc.?

War Shazar.

He was a dancer on Joanne world tour and then was the choreography assistant for Richy on the Chromatica ball.

Edited Wednesday at 02:48 PM by cachapatratorian

[angelduuh 356]

Watched the entire thing, it´s pretty interesting if you want to know more about what goes on behind scenes. I wish she and Gaga can reconnect again, Sloan still loves Gaga.

[63grekke 1,424]

18 hours ago, A Very Gaga Holida said:

So the Dive Bar Tour and Joanne 2 were basically cancelled because Richy hadn’t prepared the choreo for the Joanne World Tour omg

what's Joanne 2?

[ActualPatient 1,288]

7 hours ago, Gaga2645 said:

I’m assuming she didn’t reply because bobby probably advised her not to - not in ill faith but because if the lawsuit were pushed further anything she could have said potentially could have been used against her 

definitely this. it's sad but that's the reality of things, especially in a very litigious environment like the US. a reply could cost gaga $1m, $15m, $30m... it would be stupid to address the texts without counsel first.

[27monster27 11,974]

12 hours ago, LG2008 said:

In summary, he treated dancers like sh*t, didn't want any of them to have direct contact with Gaga, he pushed Gaga way too much because he did everything at the last minute and that ended up with Gaga hospitalized, JWT dates postponed and later cancelled, Rock in Rio cancelled, Dive Bar Tour cancelled and Joanne B-Sides cancelled too... 

So he's not only bad at his job but also lazy? They should've fired him right there... 

 

You know, a member got laughed at for using AI for this, but I wonder if the whole "Richy played a part in breaking Lady Gagas hip" thing is true. While Lady Gaga mentioned wanting to keep going, she also mentioned that she told her management over and over again that she was in pain starting in late 2012. I know part of this is Troy Carters fault, but with what we know now Richy may have blood on his hands too.

[Jill 28,941]

10 hours ago, Schwerk said:

I think with snakes in the garden she refers to Gaga's own personality. Not everyone is perfect. Gaga didnt personally reach out to her for example. Which Sloan is understanding about, but still wishes Gaga would.

Tbh, not excusing her actions here but just playing devil's advocate, I sometimes receive so many messages in my phone that I lose track and maybe forget to reply to one or two. It doesn't mean that I don't want to reply or that I forgot about those people. It simply means that I didn't see the messages or wasn't paying too much attention.

I would imagine Gaga gets a lot of messages on her phone, and maybe doesn't have only one device but probably several, with different phone numbers that she gives to other people according to the situation. It's plausible she just didn't see the message.

[Meruk Holland 2,127]

3 minutes ago, Jill said:

Tbh, not excusing her actions here but just playing devil's advocate, I sometimes receive so many messages in my phone that I lose track and maybe forget to reply to one or two. It doesn't mean that I don't want to reply or that I forgot about those people. It simply means that I didn't see the messages or wasn't paying too much attention.

I would imagine Gaga gets a lot of messages on her phone, and maybe doesn't have only one device but probably several, with different phone numbers that she gives to other people according to the situation. It's plausible she just didn't see the message.

You just know Gaga is one of those people who have over 1000+ notifications in her text messages

[Nathaniel Arven 1,636]

11 hours ago, Oriane said:

but unlike most people here, I always like his choreos.

Me to. I do not separate the man from the art, but i can't say the art is bad just because the guy is evil (god knows G.U.Y was good).... SL, camp and cheesy but super fun and liberating (probably one of my fav in a long time).

also like... the moves are more linked to Gaga (in the head of the viewer) and you don't get money drained towards you if someone does your choreo (while you do if someone listens to your song for example).... So it's slightly different... 

[Schwerk 7,061]

1 hour ago, Jill said:

Tbh, not excusing her actions here but just playing devil's advocate, I sometimes receive so many messages in my phone that I lose track and maybe forget to reply to one or two. It doesn't mean that I don't want to reply or that I forgot about those people. It simply means that I didn't see the messages or wasn't paying too much attention.

I would imagine Gaga gets a lot of messages on her phone, and maybe doesn't have only one device but probably several, with different phone numbers that she gives to other people according to the situation. It's plausible she just didn't see the message.

Oh for sure, that is very likely and understandable.

I meant that Gaga as a person also has her insecurities and in the past has pushed herself too far both mentally and psychically which might reflect on her work environment. She's in a much healthier place right now, but that wasn't the case years ago.

I understand the text may not have reached her. But she could have chosen to reach out to the dancers who spoke up, after the whole Richy situation was dealt with (and maybe she has). Although they all said she was never to blame, so I can understand she might not feel this type of closure was needed for them. 

Edited Wednesday at 08:11 PM by Schwerk

[LG2008 3,833]

2 hours ago, Jill said:

Tbh, not excusing her actions here but just playing devil's advocate, I sometimes receive so many messages in my phone that I lose track and maybe forget to reply to one or two. It doesn't mean that I don't want to reply or that I forgot about those people. It simply means that I didn't see the messages or wasn't paying too much attention.

I would imagine Gaga gets a lot of messages on her phone, and maybe doesn't have only one device but probably several, with different phone numbers that she gives to other people according to the situation. It's plausible she just didn't see the message.

Very plausible, maybe the message wasn't that clear and she asked Bobby or someone else why her and others weren't coming back.

I also think it was great how they managed everything quietly. Maybe they had to wait til Richy's contract expired to avoid more problems

[Ziggy 10,873]

22 hours ago, nATAH said:

she talks about how laurieann would come in and oversee rather than create choreography whilst richy made the choreo... what if he's actually responsible for bad romance  

That was probably later as remember she started working with Katy Perry and nicki. I doubt so early on laurieann wasn’t doing it. Plus both her and Gaga tell the same story about making it so unless they got together to tell a fake story (weird) I think it’s boomkack

Edited Wednesday at 08:48 PM by Ziggy

[Ziggy 10,873]

13 hours ago, Schwerk said:

I think with snakes in the garden she refers to Gaga's own personality. Not everyone is perfect. Gaga didnt personally reach out to her for example. Which Sloan is understanding about, but still wishes Gaga would.

Gaga probably has some personality traits or habits that stood in the way of the situation. We all know she can be her own worst enemy and push herself too far. 

Canceling projects for example shouldn't just be solely blamed on Richy, Gaga may have also bit of more than she could chew at the time or may not have been involved in her team enough to know it was malfunctioning. Which is is al perfectly understandable.

Not saying I'm on Richy's side btw, I fully stand by Sloan and she worded everything so well, I just see people in this thread jump to some conclusions that I think need a bit more nuance.

Ehhhh a statement like that doesn’t usually mean something so abstract lol it’s fairly literal like that sheep in wolf’s clothing thing

[chronic 90]

I don’t know anything about the relationship/professional relationship between artists and their choreographers, but if this had been going on for years through multiple tours and albums cycles how is Gaga not at all responsible even in the slightest? I’m not accusing her of anything, but it sounds odd. He works for her, no? And her dancers are very unhappy. I need it explained to me. They’re rehearsing for hundreds of hours all together. Granted the dancers know her better than any of us ever will, and if they say she’s not to blame then I’m going to take their word for it. 

Edited Wednesday at 09:35 PM by chronic

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6 hours ago, cachapatratorian said:

War Shazar.

He was a dancer on Joanne world tour and then was the choreography assistant for Richy on the Chromatica ball.

Just looked him up, and he even looks like he is not nice

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22 hours ago, A Very Gaga Holida said:

I mean that’s my understanding of the situation but it’s accurate with what she said. Back when they cancelled the Dive Bar Tour where she was supposed to debut new music, they said they needed more time to rehearse for the JWT, so yeah…

I remember thinking “why would they need more time to rehearse?? Didn’t they plan the rehearsals in their plans or something?” Now we know 

I completely forgot about that. Now i wonder what that new music was going to be like