I Was Wrong About Gaga Getting Solo Hit!

[Economy 48,072]

To be fair I never said it "couldnt" happen, nor did I think it was impossible. But I was pessimistic and skeptical

 

It had been 12 years since she got a standard album track release (applause) that was smashing. After Applause all Gagas top 10s and hits that werent collabs or associated with a hit movie were:

 

- Dope: Cute brief top 10 single. To be fair its impressive it managed to debut top 10 but not really a true single and it was still very close to Applause time frame were discusssing. Plus it was helped by the vevo ad that inflated its streams.

- Million Reasons: Required heavy promotion + itunes discount + super bowl to make it got top 10 just for 1 week, tho to be fair it did have longevity

- Stupid Love: Decent debut first week then started falling immediately each week. It was not a "flop" but it was not that smash hit either. It was only a moderate hit again

 

After 12 years of all her smashes being either a collab or from a hit movie, I really did question whether shed ever get a solo hit from a standard album release ever again. I didnt think it was impossible but I found it unlikely.

 

I thought the most we could hope for was Million Reasons and Stupid Love type of situation. Not a flop, even respectable hit, but not chart smasher.

 

Well I was wrong. And im humble enough to admit I was wrong and in this case im very Happy for Gaga that she proved me wrong 

 

Edited yesterday at 05:45 PM by Economy

[littlepotter 74,657]

1 minute ago, Economy said:

- Dope: Cute brief top 10 single. To be fair its impressive it managed to debut top 10 but not really a true single and it was still very close to Applause time frame were discusssing

I wonder if you know why it debuted in the top 10 because this is missing context 

[LateToCult 40,280]

1 minute ago, littlepotter said:

I wonder if you know why it debuted in the top 10 because this is missing context 

Educate the children, mamas because I was left behind. 

[buzzkill 5,024]

1 minute ago, LateToCult said:

Educate the children, mamas because I was left behind. 

because Vevo put the performance as an Ad on youtube, and by that time they didnt had a regulation regarding this, so it counted as regular streams... if i'm not mistaken

[palma 7,731]

I think with the right song even Katy can get a cute solo top 10. With streaming and TikTok dominating music consumption all it really takes is to get people's attention.

Gaga has always been a huge celebrity and there will always be some level of fanfare around her releases. But ngl I too only expected 1 week top 10s after Joanne + Stupid Love - it just seemed that the fanbase was not what it was to secure her #1 debuts. And of course, the radio would never really support her to get sustained hits.

It feels so good to be wrong 

[lastpopicon 5,223]

I guess the lesson here is to never doubt her  

[Economy 48,072]

9 minutes ago, buzzkill said:

because Vevo put the performance as an Ad on youtube, and by that time they didnt had a regulation regarding this, so it counted as regular streams... if i'm not mistaken

 

13 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

I wonder if you know why it debuted in the top 10 because this is missing context 

I still included it on list cuz its still a solo that went top 10 but I did not know that. Gonna edit that in! 

[Economy 48,072]

14 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

I guess the lesson here is to never doubt her  

Ive repented of my sins and re-established my faith

[RAMROD 106,044]

Pay us tickets for MAYHEM Ball Tour of our choice, maybe you will be forgiven 

[GerMonsterNotta 1,023]

I think your thinking was rational and based on evidence, and many here felt similar ways, either fully or partially 

 

what came together for Abra, for me, is an accumulation of Gaga artistry through the ages in the cleanest way AND at the right moment… 

 

It has the dance-pop catchiness of Pokerface, it has the classic dark Gaga avant garde of Bad Romance, Judas, Aura, but it also has the hardness of Swine, the explosiveness of Donatella, Marry The Night, Schiebe, fused with the danceyneas of ROM….. the video and choreo of Born This Way… I feel like all the elements she has been working on came together at a time when the GP, the fans, a TikTok generation are ready to point to it and say - That’s Gaga again - but bringing it even better - We are ready and here for this……  this is actually very difficult to pull off and combine all these elements in the right way to not be ‘cheesy’ or ‘obvious’, and to also launch an era which is both avant garde but public digestible….. as well as doing it for the fans! And let’s not forget - NOTHING LEAKED (only herself with her own car snippet)

for those that thought mega hit success was unattainable, you’re not mad!!! I totally see the thinking!!! But what she’s doing with this era is clearly a product of a lot of hard work, and she has the right people, right mindset to set it up best it can for success…  I’m so glad it’s paying off…  the industry is very competitive … huge congratulations to her

Edited yesterday at 06:20 PM by GerMonsterNotta

[lastpopicon 5,223]

19 minutes ago, Economy said:

Ive repented of my sins and re-established my faith

I'm still a bit shell shocked by the massive abra success, what's she's doing right now is no small feat, she's outshining new acts and legacy acts like she never left, I can totally understand if some people had doubts, I probably had some myself lol But after Abra I'm never doubting her again coz she always finds a way to prove us wrong 

[DeanSummer 927]

11 minutes ago, GerMonsterNotta said:

I think your thinking was rational and based on evidence, and many here felt similar ways, either fully or partially 

 

what came together for Abra, for me, is an accumulation of Gaga artistry through the ages in the cleanest way AND at the right moment… 

 

It has the dance-pop catchiness of Pokerface, it has the classic dark Gaga avant garde of Bad Romance, Judas, Aura, but it also has the hardness of Swine, the explosiveness of Donatella, Marry The Night, Schiebe, fused with the danceyneas of ROM….. the video and choreo of Born This Way… I feel like all the elements she has been working on came together at a time when the GP, the fans, a TikTok generation are ready to point to it and say - That’s Gaga again - but bringing it even better - We are ready and here for this……  this is actually very difficult to pull off and combine all these elements in the right way to not be ‘cheesy’ or ‘obvious’, and to also launch an era which is both avant garde but public digestible….. as well as doing it for the fans! And let’s not forget - NOTHING LEAKED (only herself with her own car snippet)

for those that thought mega hit success was unattainable, you’re not mad!!! I totally see the thinking!!! But what she’s doing with this era is clearly a product of a lot of hard work, and she has the right people, right mindset to set it up best it can for success…  I’m so glad it’s paying off…  the industry is very competitive … huge congratulations to her

You mean Scheiße / Scheisse

 

schiebe has total different meaning 

 

[Arcanum 5,058]

For some reason chronologically into her career she is +-2 years in the equivalent phase of "The emancipation of Mimi" & "Ray of light" . Mariah & Madonna have been icons each in their own musical district, so this pretty much establishes her as the giant of our generation.

And it feels so good!

[Killa 16,354]

47 minutes ago, palma said:

I think with the right song even Katy can get a cute solo top 10. With streaming and TikTok dominating music consumption all it really takes is to get people's attention.

Gaga has always been a huge celebrity and there will always be some level of fanfare around her releases. But ngl I too only expected 1 week top 10s after Joanne + Stupid Love - it just seemed that the fanbase was not what it was to secure her #1 debuts. And of course, the radio would never really support her to get sustained hits.

It feels so good to be wrong 

the thing is that she has struggled to even get to the top 10. Which is also due to new rules and streaming. The top 10 can be stale for weeks. Well and after Disease debuting that low, a new hit kinda seemed farfetched.

I also believe Katy can do it. But it's more than just the right song. It's everything, from the week it debuts, where and how it debuts. What happened before, there needs to be some kind of narrative. Gaga has had people being aware of her, but not caring that much. Joker came and then there were people invested in her but it was just an outburst of negativity. The negativity flow on social media generates more due to how search engines and algorithms work, so such bad press is a hard time to release. 

The song has def the qualities for being a hit. but it's also luck, great strategies etc. Ofc there's the video which in this case really helped. But honestly the simple visuals cue also helped DWAS. IT's simple and memorable. To get through the general public everything needs to be sharp lasered focus. Otherwise people get confused or indifferent and simply move on.

Look at Linkin Park. Never thought they'd pull it off. Also another case of keeping the usual recipe of success with just a few changes. 

[GerMonsterNotta 1,023]

2 minutes ago, DeanSummer said:

You mean Scheiße / Scheisse

 

schiebe has total different meaning