GoldenNovember 455 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On 2/10/2025 at 6:13 AM, Old Gregg said: I've been incredibly lucky to have two interactions with her where it was just me, her and security, lasting 3 mins or so each. So each interaction was decently substantial. Let me tell you, she was so unbelievably nice each time! Nicer than I could have ever imagined. So nice that it would be hard to ever think she's the polar opposite. With that being said, you never really know I suppose. Something I noticed is that as she sings "when the devil turns around" she turns around. Are you being serious? Like... really? It's hard to light a candle, easy to curse the dark instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gregg 44 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 37 minutes ago, TraeumereiLPB said: Are you being serious? Like... really? I don't know what you're asking about. To cover all the bases, I'm serious that she really was spectacularly nice on 2 separate occasions, that I can't say for certain if she's as nice as she seems, that she turns around when she sings the lyrics about the devil turning around, and that I think it's interesting to think about the artistic decision to turn around at that precise moment of the song. You ever drunk Baileys from a shoe? I'm old greggggggggggggggggggg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chromanne 1,460 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Old Gregg said: I don't know what you're asking about. To cover all the bases, I'm serious that she really was spectacularly nice on 2 separate occasions, that I can't say for certain if she's as nice as she seems, that she turns around when she sings the lyrics about the devil turning around, and that I think it's interesting to think about the artistic decision to turn around at that precise moment of the song. She is too nice, she could be evil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gregg 44 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, Chromanne said: She is too nice, she could be evil lol. Probably not but we'll likely never know for sure :P You ever drunk Baileys from a shoe? I'm old greggggggggggggggggggg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenNovember 455 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 6 hours ago, Old Gregg said: I don't know what you're asking about. To cover all the bases, I'm serious that she really was spectacularly nice on 2 separate occasions, that I can't say for certain if she's as nice as she seems, that she turns around when she sings the lyrics about the devil turning around, and that I think it's interesting to think about the artistic decision to turn around at that precise moment of the song. Ok, I'll try to be civil. You describe having met her on two separate occasions. During both meetings, she was nothing but kind and friendly, to an extend that you were even surprised as to how cool she was. Questioning if she genuinely is this nice, or simply acts that way in front of fans is in itself quite a human thing to do. We tend to be skeptical of others intentions and their sincerity. Nothing wrong with that. But the moment you start to question the authenticity of her kindness simply because of a music video of hers, where she turns around when the lyrics say the devil is turning around... Sorry, but that's just asinine. Knowing the way Gaga likes to put lots of symbolism into her work, and considering how Mayhem and the songs on that album will delve into the topic of "inner demons", she probably saw the opportunity to turn around during that particular lyric since she is portraying the "devil" inside. Or, heck, maybe she just thought it was funny to play the devil for a second. Who knows? But to even suggest there is the slightest chance of this being an indicator of Gaga being a bad person or her taking part in satanic worship is completely ignorant and foolish. It's hard to light a candle, easy to curse the dark instead. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahb 16,612 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Flanders that you Do you feel him sir? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,400 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On 2/7/2025 at 4:24 PM, He8MyHeart said: You know it's good when satanic questions come from within the fanbase. This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gregg 44 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, TraeumereiLPB said: Ok, I'll try to be civil. You describe having met her on two separate occasions. During both meetings, she was nothing but kind and friendly, to an extend that you were even surprised as to how cool she was. Questioning if she genuinely is this nice, or simply acts that way in front of fans is in itself quite a human thing to do. We tend to be skeptical of others intentions and their sincerity. Nothing wrong with that. But the moment you start to question the authenticity of her kindness simply because of a music video of hers, where she turns around when the lyrics say the devil is turning around... Sorry, but that's just asinine. Knowing the way Gaga likes to put lots of symbolism into her work, and considering how Mayhem and the songs on that album will delve into the topic of "inner demons", she probably saw the opportunity to turn around during that particular lyric since she is portraying the "devil" inside. Or, heck, maybe she just thought it was funny to play the devil for a second. Who knows? But to even suggest there is the slightest chance of this being an indicator of Gaga being a bad person or her taking part in satanic worship is completely ignorant and foolish. I've been a massive fan of hers since way way back. I've been along for the ride since the get-go, and It's not exactly like this is the first instance of symbolism that could be perceived in such a light. Very unfortunately, evil exists on this planet. The kind of stuff you hear happening on your local news network from local people even can make your head spin, and I think that anyone in exceptional places of influence, whether heading some major company, being a figure head, politician, actor, singer, etc is considerably more likely to be evil. I think just by nature of being willing to do whatever it takes regardless of how messed up to get to the top. I had read some study a while back, something along the lines of CEOs being sociopaths at 4X the rate of the average human. I'm not 100% sure than anyone is a good person. The more influential someone is, the more skeptical I am of them being a decent human. Not only that, but the more influential they are, the more important it is to be skeptical. Now, when an extremely influential person also engages in symbolism (which of course can be perceived differently), but when one of the myriad of ways it can be perceived is satanically, on very much more than 1 occasion over the course of their career, I'm going to be a bit less confident that they're a good person. To be clear, my assumption is very much that she's as kind and considerate as she seems. I just think that having at least some level of skepticism makes sense Edited February 11 by Old Gregg You ever drunk Baileys from a shoe? I'm old greggggggggggggggggggg 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 24,755 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, Old Gregg said: I've been a massive fan of hers since way way back. I've been along for the ride since the get-go, and It's not exactly like this is the first instance of symbolism that could be perceived in such a light. Very unfortunately, evil exists on this planet. The kind of stuff you hear happening on your local news network from local people even can make your head spin, and I think that anyone in exceptional places of influence, whether heading some major company, being a figure head, politician, actor, singer, etc is considerably more likely to be evil. I think just by nature of being willing to do whatever it takes regardless of how messed up to get to the top. I had read some study a while back, something along the lines of CEOs being sociopaths at 4X the rate of the average human. I'm not 100% sure than anyone is a good person. The more influential someone is, the more skeptical I am of them being a decent human. Not only that, but the more influential they are, the more important it is to be skeptical. Now, when an extremely influential person also engages in symbolism (which of course can be perceived differently), but when one of the myriad of ways it can be perceived is satanically, on very much more than 1 occasion over the course of their career, I'm going to be a bit less confident that they're a good person. To be clear, my assumption is very much that she's as kind and considerate as she seems. I just think that having at least some level of skepticism makes sense The devil isn’t real. Hope this helps 🫶 We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Gregg 44 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: The devil isn’t real. Hope this helps 🫶 It doesn't. Anyways, I don't think the devil exists either. That doesn't mean that people don't act evil or worship the devil though. You ever drunk Baileys from a shoe? I'm old greggggggggggggggggggg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 24,755 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just now, Old Gregg said: It doesn't. Anyways, I don't think the devil exists either. That doesn't mean that people don't act evil or worship the devil though. Should help, tbh. Have you tried thinking about it again? We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gregg 44 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: Should help, tbh. Have you tried thinking about it again? No, and I'm not sure why you think it would You ever drunk Baileys from a shoe? I'm old greggggggggggggggggggg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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