Jay23 350 Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Hennycomb said: I got a marketing idea... Should we ride the Abracadabra wave and start spreading these? Ironically , ARTPOP has no satanic references in it at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meruk Holland 2,161 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, Jay23 said: Like I said, I want to be wrong.. If someone knows what the symbols she forms with her body at 1:22 and 1:19 are, please let me know. Someone on twitter identified the one at 1:22 as the satanic sigil. I can see the poses you're pointing out, but I'm afraid I don't recognize any symbols, satanic or otherwise. Could you please refer us to what symbols she's supposed to be making out at these timestamps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 18,358 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Jay23 said: Look at 1:22 in motion, not as a screenshot. The way she moves her hands down completes the missing diagonal side lines on the symbol. It’s not just the diagonal sides, it’s the fact that if you traced the shapes their bodies make, it forms an hourglass shape, not a triangle with to extended lines inside a larger triangle. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay23 350 Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 Just now, Meruk Holland said: I can see the poses you're pointing out, but I'm afraid I don't recognize any symbols, satanic or otherwise. Could you please refer us to what symbols she's supposed to be making out at these timestamps? 1:22 and 1:19 of the official music video. Like i said, I want to be wrong. Let me know if you find another meaning for the symbols . 🙏🏼 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayi 2,074 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Idk if it was meant to... But maybe, cause this song is about making a great song with magic. More obviously, it's a mix of esoteric refs : Christianism, Satanism at some point, most importantly alchemy and it's also inspired by the myth of Abracax. More seriously, Gaga is Christian but making refs to other beliefs doesn't make her satanist cause Baudelaire did the same thing for his poems but he was Catholic. Victor Hugo referenced luciferism themes in his novels but he was probably an atheist. I guess that liberal Christians aren't too much affected by all that is dogmas and representations. It's more like a philosophy. That's why biggots doesn't consider her as a Christian but she is. I'm here to take a break from university homeworks :/ 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meruk Holland 2,161 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Jay23 said: 1:22 and 1:19 of the official music video. Like i said, I want to be wrong. Let me know if you find another meaning for the symbols . 🙏🏼 I have access to the video, and saw it, but I don't know what the symbols are, much less mean. I need a reference to the symbols you think she's presenting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 18,358 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Jay23 said: 1:22 and 1:19 of the official music video. Like i said, I want to be wrong. Let me know if you find another meaning for the symbols . 🙏🏼 You’re assuming that they are A.) symbols and B.) that they necessarily have metaphysical meaning. What reason do you have for making those assumptions? We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay23 350 Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: It’s not just the diagonal sides, it’s the fact that if you traced the shapes their bodies make, it forms an hourglass shape, not a triangle with to extended lines inside a larger triangle. Idk.. the hourglass seems more like a stretch than the sigil. She also shows this directly at the part where she says “it’s time to cast your spell of the night” the overhead shot is intentional to portray this scene as a ritual. But again, I want to be wrong here. So far, can’t find any pagan or witchcraft symbols to explain this being not directly Satan worship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobina 1,894 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 The devil ain't real to me so it don't matter to me either way in her tongue she said, "death or love tonight" 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilwood 3,694 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jay23 said: 1:22 and 1:19 of the official music video. Like i said, I want to be wrong. Let me know if you find another meaning for the symbols . 🙏🏼 If the symbols are indeed intentional (I haven't even checked), knowing Gaga it probably is like dog whistle to make people react like this. To worship an entity is to practice it alone and taking it seriously, not doing symbols in music videos. Please let's come to our senses Edited February 7 by Hennycomb Paubrasilia echinata 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 18,358 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Jay23 said: Idk.. the hourglass seems more like a stretch than the sigil. She also shows this directly at the part where she says “it’s time to cast your spell of the night” the overhead shot is intentional to portray this scene as a ritual. But again, I want to be wrong here. So far, can’t find any pagan or witchcraft symbols to explain this being not directly Satan worship. Legitimately doesn’t look like the sigil, but since you’re committed to the idea that it has to be a metaphysical symbol, we’re at an impasse here. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 8,031 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, TinyGa said: OP has been bringing up conspiracies all over the site this week Literally all of their post history is wild reading 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSUNAMI 20,762 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Contract with Satan RENEWED 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracomalfoy 705 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 unfortunately not! Chromatic, Chromatic, put your hands all over my colors. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meruk Holland 2,161 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Jay23 said: Idk.. the hourglass seems more like a stretch than the sigil. She also shows this directly at the part where she says “it’s time to cast your spell of the night” the overhead shot is intentional to portray this scene as a ritual. But again, I want to be wrong here. So far, can’t find any pagan or witchcraft symbols to explain this being not directly Satan worship. If you can't prove it's a satanic sigil, then you can't say it's proof of Satanic worship. It could be Pagan, Celtic, Hellenistic, Asatru, Voodoo, etc. Or it could just be an aesthetically fitting choreography unattached to any real life belief system. 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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