Gaga on Joker 2 flopping: "Fear of failure can be really damaging"

[Jill 27,958]

40 minutes ago, Alfonso said:

So, the taping won't see the light? She should've released it right away

She will probably release it in sime greatest hits collection for the 40th anniversary of her debut or something

Edited January 29 by Jill

[HotLikeMexico 4,687]

the movie was hot garbage. That being said I think people attacking her for something out of her control was ridiculous. Comic books fans are really some of the worst groups out there.
 

That being said I’m happy with how she eloquently explained her thoughts behind it and how she’s not really phased by it. 
 

[Plastic Flower 4,116]

She flipped the narrative with this quote, in Mexican social media, at least. And I’m so happy about it.

[Mister Gaga 22,186]

Time will raise this movie as a cult classic. Just like ARTPOP. She’ll end up winning, as always

[Economy 47,929]

2 hours ago, River said:

honestly, the sad part abot joker 2 is that harlequin didn't get the attention it deserve.. it's such a beautiful album and I hope it will get some recognition one day

Gaga is a really interesting one

 

Shes one of the few (if not the only) A-list artist I know of that consistently gets praise for her past work and overall talent but every time she releases something new critics and GP are so much tougher on her than say TS or Beyonce always giving her "decent" scores for masterpieces best case scenario, and mediocre scores and reception for stuff she still did well

 

But in a few years ppl will praise it.

 

The way BTW, ARTPOP is so loved now, the way Bloody Mary randomly took off 12 years after release, or ppl refering to Gagas breakthru as a total icon (when in 2010/2011 everyone was sh*tting on how weird she was)

 

I do not know if Harleyquin and Joker 2 will be one of those or not. But if in 4 or 5 years everyone says was great I wouldnt be surprised at this point (tho the movie is not mostly focused on Gaga so could be different)

Edited January 29 by Economy

[Awrah999 4,171]

I love her fearlessness and her ability to stand up for her art. She has pride in the work that she did and she knows she created an admirable, deeply connected portrayal of the character she was given. This subject has been discussed ad nauseam but the film's directing is really where the pitfalls were. Gaga's ability to try so many different genres and forms of art with versatility and earnest is one of the reasons I fell in love with her and she's still the same in this way over a decade into her career 

[LeafBug 7,763]

19 hours ago, Economy said:

Gaga is a really interesting one

 

Shes one of the few (if not the only) A-list artist I know of that consistently gets praise for her past work and overall talent but every time she releases something new critics and GP are so much tougher on her than say TS or Beyonce always giving her "decent" scores for masterpieces best case scenario, and mediocre scores and reception for stuff she still did well

 

But in a few years ppl will praise it.

 

The way BTW, ARTPOP is so loved now, the way Bloody Mary randomly took off 12 years after release, or ppl refering to Gagas breakthru as a total icon (when in 2010/2011 everyone was sh*tting on how weird she is)

 

I do not know if Harleyquin and Joker 2 will be one of those or not. But if in 4 or 5 years everyone says was great I wouldnt be surprised at this point (tho the movie is not mostly focused on Gaga so could be different)

I noticed this as well. Why is it like this? 

 

Even I am guilty of it. It took me years to start appreciating DWUW (literally best song on ARTPOP), Diamond Heart, Sinner’s Prayer and the rest of Joanne. Happy Mistake took a few months but it’s now 11/10 for me. 

I think it’s a symptom of modern day instant gratification. We just want that immediate dopamine hit but art doesn’t always work that way. 

Seeing how I’m this way made me plan the listening of LG7 differently this time. I will try taking time to analyze each song, give it a few listens and only judge it as a whole, before moving on to the next. I will write down my thoughts and take breaks between tracks. It’ll be fun I think. 

 

Edited January 29 by LeafBug

[Economy 47,929]

3 minutes ago, LeafBug said:

I noticed this as well. Why is it like this? 

 

 

I think 2 main factors...

 

#1 her stuff (usually) is not generic and jumping on trends which means it takes time to digest, get used to it and learn to appreciate it. Its so easy to dismiss something that sounds or looks out of trend but much easier to look back on it with fondness since it will stand out

 

#2 Even ppl who dont love her acknowlege shes talented. Many may not be excited when she releases something newbut appreciating her as a talented icon makes it easier to look back at their career and say its been impactful and iconic even if everytime something new comes out the reception is mixed and lukewarm

 

I guess the caveat to that tho is that for ppl to look back on her in awe (refering to GP here) it helps for her to remain relevant so once inna while she still needs hits and that might explain why sometimes she chooses to go the safer routes with these more generic ballad collabs to ensure shes still on the map then goes back to taking more risks again! Its genius really plus it ahows her versatility anyway

[Tyler1992 2,196]

3 hours ago, Economy said:

Gaga is a really interesting one

 

Shes one of the few (if not the only) A-list artist I know of that consistently gets praise for her past work and overall talent but every time she releases something new critics and GP are so much tougher on her than say TS or Beyonce always giving her "decent" scores for masterpieces best case scenario, and mediocre scores and reception for stuff she still did well

 

But in a few years ppl will praise it.

 

The way BTW, ARTPOP is so loved now, the way Bloody Mary randomly took off 12 years after release, or ppl refering to Gagas breakthru as a total icon (when in 2010/2011 everyone was sh*tting on how weird she was)

 

I do not know if Harleyquin and Joker 2 will be one of those or not. But if in 4 or 5 years everyone says was great I wouldnt be surprised at this point (tho the movie is not mostly focused on Gaga so could be different)

I kind of love it, even thought it’s initially frustrating. Critics are very good at solidifying a mold for an artist, and when that expectation isn’t met, it becomes a point of contention. 

Her being consistently reappraised for her past work is the ultimate stamp of approval. It almost admits that expectations were wrong with, but witu new perspective. 

I think there’s a point when an artist moves into the untouchable territory. Their mastery of craftsmanship creates a formula that will work every time, but packaged differently, exceeding what was expected based on former work. I don’t think this should be the goal. 

Gaga experienced that during Chromatica. It was her first album that had praise out of the gate, and critics singled it out as a great Gaga album. It checked all the right boxes, and hit all the right notes of what she should do.

Gaga is best when expectations are subverted, not for the sake of being different, but to try new genres, sounds,  etc. I think when Gaga doesn’t tweak what’s already working, or what’s worked in the past, but swing for something she’s never tried it (eventually) illicits the best results. 

[Starmie25 14,973]

This interview is trending on reddit atm too.

[StrawberryBlond 14,296]

She's always a class act, even when she has no need to be. Taking this approach is the best way to handle it, it generates so much more respect than going the "f**k the public, you're just too dumb to get it" route or bashing the director. In Todd's case, he's definitely the one at fault, but Gaga realises that badmouthing the most powerful people in the industry is going to be detrimental to her acting career and awards chances. I doubt we'll ever hear her uncensored, unfiltered opinion about it due to that. Part of me wishes we could one day see Gaga go off the record and rant for once but Todd is the only one who really needs to speak up but still hasn't faced the music. It's going to be interesting to see his response if that day ever comes.